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Page Pulled For 1 Month, Gets Back to #1 in 24 Hours

Did The Sandbox Hold My Place In Line While I Took A Break?

         

egomaniac

5:49 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just found something very interesting that could be related to the sandbox problem.

One domain I own has a couple of hundred pages, and has separate pages that rank very well across a variety of keywords.

About 1 month ago, I decided to do some copy testing on one of the pages. This page had a #1 ranking for a 2-word phrase with 17.6M competing pages in Google. Traffic for that keyword is light, so I would categorize this as a only a moderatley competitive keyword.

In order to do the copy testing, I had to replace this #1 ranking page with a meta-refresh that redirected all visitors to rotator script, which then split the visitors to various versions of the page I was testing with different copy on each one.

Shortly after making this change, the page disappeared from the SERPs for the keyword it had been #1 for.

I ended my test yesterday (so the "real" page had been gone for a month). Put the page with the new copy back up in place of the meta-refresh page. And today the page is back at #1 - only 24 hours later.

The page is displayed in the SERPs as only the URL, i.e. [blahblah.com...] - no title tag, no description snippet.

Now here's what is interesting.

I have another domain that I put up sometime this spring, didn't do anything to it, didn't get any links, nada. I was just going to use it for some testing with AdWords.

I forgot about this second domain until about 2 mos ago. I got some free links back to this second domain by submitting a bunch of my articles to a directory. The links back to this second domain were all in the form of [keyword1-keyword2-keword3.com...] . No real anchor text per se, but the keywords are in the url. I got about 50 of these links from good high PR pages in this other directory.

I can find this second domain in Google, but it is buried for its phrase.

And get this... Google displays it in the SERPS as [keyword1-keyword2-keword3.com...] - no title tag, no description snippet.

It seems that Google held my place in line so to speak for the first page which had effectively been removed for a month.

Yet this new domain seems that it may be held back even though it ranks #1 for allinanchor for the 3 words in the url (I am not sure cause I have not put a lot of energy into getting it to rank - though the 3-word phrase is specific enough that it should show up with 50+ backlinks).

Strange new algo indeed.

egomaniac

1:12 am on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Update: Exactly 1 week later, Google has now grabbed the Title Tag, Description Snippet for the page that I pulled for 1 month. As I said above, this page came back into the index immediately, as if the Google index "held my place in line". The only difference is that for the first 7 days it was back in the index at #1, it was a "URL only" listing.

The other domain I mentioned above is still stuck in the sandbox, even though it has 50 or so PR6 pages linked to it from a domain that I don't own (I am not whining - just reporting observations). BTW, those 50 new links are only about 2 mos. old, and the domain went up in May 2004 (I think).