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New Domain in Google

New domain listed in Google, never submitted

         

notbob

5:28 am on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I purchased a domain recently that had no links from other websites and was not listed in the search engines.

This afternoon, I just did a check in google and yahoo and noticed it is now listed in both search engines.

The site has never been submitted, never had links from other sites and only has a placeholder for a homepage, yet it is now listed.

Anyone have any ideas how this would have occurred?

Thanks

rfgdxm1

7:33 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you absolutely 100% sure it has no inbound links? The first possibility that comes to mind is in the past someone linked to it via a typo. All it would take is someone with fat fingers posting on a message board somewhere who meant to drop the URL to another site, and ended up posting a link to your domain by mistake. And, if you just purchased it recently, is it possible that many years ago someone else owned that domain name, and there is still a link from ages ago dangling around to that?

Spine

7:36 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've had this happen, it seems to find you from the domain registration database lately.

Gorilla

7:40 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This has happened with all domains I have registered that last few months. Googlebot will come visit a few days after the domain has been set up. You still need links to the page to get any significant number of interior pages on the domain indexed.

rfgdxm1

7:58 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>I've had this happen, it seems to find you from the domain registration database lately.

This is yet another possibility. GoogleGuy has admitted that Google has a database of registered, and previously registered, domain names. Without such, it would be impossible for Google to diregard backlinks to a domain that had expired and was registered by someone else, and count only backlinks that were added after the new person reregistered it. If a domain is registered, then Google knows this, and could spider it if they wished to. With Google emphasizing having the largest number of pages indexed, it would make sense they'd do this.

SlowMove

8:13 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've had it happen. I do have the Google Toolbar installed. I thought that might be the reason.

rfgdxm1

8:18 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>I've had it happen. I do have the Google Toolbar installed. I thought that might be the reason.

That's yet another possibility. However, the original poster mentioned that this new site quickly also appeared in Yahoo. So Yahoo had to find out about this domain by some other means.

PatrickDeese

8:24 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Some of the domain registrars publish lists of recently registered domains.

Also, perhaps you registered a domain that was previously owned, and it had pre-existing inbounds?

Finally, the gTB does seem to send gBot in some times, I accidentally had an entire "test" subdirectory crawled once.

notbob

2:00 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> Are you absolutely 100% sure it has no inbound
> links?

Yes, I am fairly sure there were no backlinks. In google, there is an option to find webpages that link to your site.

When I checked that, there were no backlinks.

I'm thinking one of the other posters was correct when he said that perhaps it is getting spidered through the domain registry.

steveb

2:24 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not showing backlinks is no way to judge if other sites link to it.

MarkHutch

2:28 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try this search term with Google and see if anything comes up. "+www.yourdomainname.+com"

Make sure and include the "" part in the search.

IITian

2:48 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't think it is likely - it's just a far-fetched idea - but since Google likes the model of a random surfer, a distant possibility is there that the Gbot "accidentally" found your site by mistyping some other domain name it was planning to go to and landed on yours. ;)

notbob

3:06 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Try this search term with Google and see if anything >comes up. "+www.yourdomainname.+com"
>Make sure and include the "" part in the search.

Thanks for the command. I tried it and no backlinks. Guess I'll just chalk it up to my lucky stars to be in yahoo and google.

Now it's time to build PR!

MarkHutch

3:11 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The most logical explaination is that Googlebot has found some way into the ICANN system and is picking up all registered domains. I've seen this spider find things behind password protected pages before, so anything is possible.

edit_g

3:12 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When you search for links like this go to alltheweb - google will still pick you up from low pr links, it just won't show them as backlinks. Alltheweb includes all links.

XtendScott

3:20 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I heard this discussion at PubCon and believe it was said that Google could find sites through a servers Referral log.

That is if you are viewing your site and go to another site, that 2nd site would have a Referral from your site.

MarkHutch

3:24 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Xtend, I think you nailed it!

notbob

3:32 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, I didn't think Google would have access to server logs.

MarkHutch

3:39 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh yes. Go to Google type in

Webalizer Version 2.01

You'll find thousands of links to web site stats. Within those pages are referring links and exit links to various pages.