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Is example.com Different From www.example.com?

Different PR for it.

         

alexandra

4:39 am on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi

example.com has a pr4, but www.example.com has pr6, how does it come this way? what is the difference?

thanks for your input
alexandra

[edited by: ciml at 2:05 pm (utc) on Feb. 16, 2004]
[edit reason] Examplified URL. [/edit]

jtbell

5:14 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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www.example.co.uk has a PR of 6, and www.example.com has a PR of 5. Am I best off doing the 301 on the .htaccess file for the site, so that Google is told to only goto one address?

Yes. IMHO you should *always* configure a site so it has exactly one canonical name and all the other names for it produce a 301 redirect to that name.

adfree

5:24 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How about other SEs in regard of this issue?
I think I will set the IIS header to the www version only from now on...
Jens

pgudge

5:33 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have a Virtual host for both

.co.uk and .com

Is there an easier way to join them, like set an alias for the .com to point to .co.uk or just do the following

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.example\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ [example.co.uk...] [R=permanent]

?

adfree

8:05 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One more question to the IIS header only being www:
What if someone requests example.com?
404?
How to prevent?

vrtlw

9:04 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What if someone requests example.com?
404?
How to prevent?

Use a 301 redirect

justinsane777

9:37 pm on Feb 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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this used to be the case for me, but i did nothing it was the difference between a 4 and a 5 for www. Things righted themselves after one of the last updates actually.

AussieMike

1:44 am on Feb 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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GoogleGuy menttionned a couple of months ago that they are essentially penalising people who haven't configured their server to seperate prefix and no prefix or put a redirect on one of them to the other. I've been doing web development for 4 years but it still took me hours to work out how the hell to do it with our server condigurations. Google dicriminates against those that simply wouldn't be able to work out how to do such a thing. eg: the very important mum and dad information sites run by the average joe.

One of our site's rankings had dropped considerably just before GG said this so as directed, I put a redirect in one of our sites because all pages (except the home) were indexed without the www but we had plenty of new links pointing at the www.

The Result: google removed all our pages except the home page and our google traffic (&sales) for this site was reduced considerably.

so yeah, cheers for the tip GoogleGuy.

BallochBD

7:51 am on Feb 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Mike, I am in the same position as yourself. I sent the email with the "canonicalization" codeword as requested by GoogleGuy, put in a redirect, scanned my site for anything remotely resembling unclean, sought out new links and I have emailed G on several occasions throughout the last few weeks, ALL to NO avail!

It is clear that this is not a problem that they are concerned about despite its repercussions for small businesses and self employed people like myself. Why can't Google open up a proper problems process that people could use in the event of situations like this? I know, I know ... they would probably say that they would be snowed under with email but they could put a condition on this. If any site used this channel without justification they would receive a lifetime ban, or be beheaded in the town square or something. The submission could be made through a form on the Google site, which clearly outlined the repercussions of making spurious complaints.

Incidentally, because of what Google is doing to me I am now receiving 99% of my traffic from the new Yahoo where I have top five placings for all my main KWs. What I am finding is that for some strange reason this traffic , although of reduced volume, appears to be more highly targeted and I am doing really well without Google. (I am a consultant in an industrial/technical field.) Is it possible that my kind of visitors, who are also technical people, are not using Google as much as they did in the past? It could be that because of its popularity some serious surfers now see Google as being too "mass market" or too "common". I am in the UK but I spoke on the phone to an associate in the USA yesterday and when I mentioned this he said that he was seeing exactly the same thing. Anyone else seeing this?

bignet

10:31 pm on Feb 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One more question to the IIS header only being www:
What if someone requests example.com?
404?

Unknown Host

The server can not locate the target host. Please check the URL and try again.

Not pretty but no pr schizophrenia, no dup content fears, no bad links, no twin fighting [webmasterworld.com]

Those who can type example.org can type www.example.org

things will be different if you enable default website

Stefan

3:30 am on Feb 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why can't Google open up a proper problems process that people could use in the event of situations like this?

Billionaires, (now officially so), don't have to worry about the petty concerns of the little people, that's why.

(Imho, purely personal view of capitalism, etc, etc.)

Roel

10:57 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow! Great! My site was completely re-indexed and the issue seems completely resolved. All pages got listed in the index. Thanks Google/GG for making the promise and following up on it!

Cheers
Roel

quotations

12:57 am on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Where does the "new" google directory reside?

When I do a web search on www.google.com, for some pages, they show up as having a category and description in the Google Directory but when I visit

[directory.google.com...]

via the Category link, there is no sign of those pages in the actual directory.

Is there a newer version somewhere besides here?

[directory.google.com...]

PS: when I search from the main directory page, the site shows up as being in the results but again, clicking on the Category link, it is not in the actual category.

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