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1:42 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have several high PR (4-5-6) links coming into my index page that google isn't Recognizing. They have been in place for about a year and google still doesn't list them in "backward links".

Should I submit these linking pages to Google myself to get the links recognized?

1:52 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No. Days are gone, probably set off alarm bells and flashing red lights.

Google does actively filter incoming links, are you also reciprocating the links? I'm starting to come to the inclusion that unless you reciprocate the links, then they are downgraded or disqualified from the whole PR equation.

One thing to look at is the URL investigator over at AllTheWeb.com, place your www.domain.com in the seach bar, and have a look at your back links there. ATW does not have a minimum exclusion from published forwarding links.

1:58 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm starting to come to the inclusion that unless you reciprocate the links, then they are downgraded or disqualified from the whole PR equation.

That doesn't make sense. Google won't penalise a site for not providing a reciprocal link. I have several links to Microsoft, but they just won't give me a reciprocal. However, Microsoft don't do too badly in G ;-)

Maybe there's a penalty if you DO give a reciprocal.

2:29 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I also disagree. I link to very few websites and there are many websites that are linking to me. I have a PR of 6 until goggle started using a previous index just a week or two ago.

I believe that goggle rates each link and if each incoming link is high enough in PR value then google will show them. It doesn't mean that if the PR of a incoming link that is low, that it doesn't get counted. It just means that goggle may not show that backlink in its results.

8:53 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Should I submit these linking pages to Google myself to get the links recognized?"

Sure, no harm in that.

However, are those pages links.html or links.htm. or links.asp or whatever? If so, most/many/tons of similar pages don't show as backlinks for anybody, so there isn't anything to be done about it except ask for your link to be moved to a page not named links.****

9:32 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK SteveB -

I've done a check of the links in questins and in every case the page has "links" in the title:

[domain.net...]

[domain.com...]

[domain.com...]

[domain.com...]

[domain.co.uk...]

So maybe the solution is to email these people and request they change the name of the page to "resources" or something.

My link to them is from my index page, so at the moment, they are getting a PR5 link and I'm getting zip.

10:23 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm getting a whole lot of "Page not found" messages on checking those links.

I fear you've been had.

Even if they do still exist, I fear you've been had.

10:37 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Check how they're linking to you. If it's something other than a plain HTML link Google might not recognize that they're linking to you.
10:38 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Curt

The term "domain" in each those links replaces the actual site name which I removed.

11:35 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have incoming links from pr 5 pr 6 pages that were included and now have disappeared. They are from the homepage of a popular site in my niche on page not named links anything. What good is submission going to do, if the pages have that good of pr they are getting spidered. Just keep waiting, maybe this will be your lucky year.
12:08 am on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've emailed the sites concerned, asking them to change to name of their links page to "resources" or something.

I'll post the results of this effort in a day or so once they get back to me. I think they simply didn't know about Google's new policy of ignoring /links.html (or similar) pages.

12:26 am on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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insyte1,

Good idea but be prepared for the possible 1-2 month loss of page rank until Google refind their page that links to you with the new name.

At least that is what happened to us when we suggested to someone who links to us that they rename their links page (it was a high PR site).

thx

12:39 am on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why do people get so excited about what Google returns for a "backward links" query?

Those results have pretty much zero relevance to your own position in the SERP. Google has varied the number and selection of those links all the time. They do *not* reflect all the backlinks to your site that Google knows about, and those links they do show say little about the importance that each one may or may not have.

There's nothing to gain from "optimizing" your site to do well in such a query.

12:56 am on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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2 months is fine. At the moment, without them changing the name, it would be NEVER
12:17 pm on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Bird

It's always nice to know who is leaking their PR to you ;-)

1:42 pm on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's always nice to know who is leaking their PR to you ;-)

I'm not debating that at all. I maintain an extensive database of backlinks to my sites. But the Google "link:" search is clearly not a very helpful source to fill that database.

2:06 pm on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think that the relevant question here is: even if Google doesn't show /links.html pages as backlinks, aren't those pages considered for ranking?

There are plenty of .edu and .org sites which don't care about Pagerank or Google, they will just keep adding links to their links.html page. OTOH, SEOd sites will rename the links page to whatever-sounds-different-of-links.html.

Would the PHDs at the Plex base link filtering just on the name of the pages, the absolutely easiest feature to be manipulated?

I believe that links.html pages have their (possibly discounted) weight, even if they do not show under link: commands. An evidence of this is that internal links (links to pages in the same domain) do appear as backlinks.

 

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