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Sites on Same Servers = :( on Google?

how can you tell what servers others are using?

     
3:55 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you think you run the risk of being band on Google if you link to too many of the same servers?

And how can you tell what servers others are using?

2:46 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to Webmasterworld Gavstar.

>And how can you tell what servers others are using?

One way is too compare the ip addresses. If they are the same it is the same server in mosts senses, it does depend on how you define 'server'.
IP addresses being sequential or close do not neccesarily say something about websites being on the same fysical server (machine).

On *nix, one way to get the ip address of example.com is to type

host example.com

>Do you think you run the risk of being band on Google if you link to too many of the same servers?

It depends again on how you define 'server'. If you mean on the same ip, I don't think you risk getting banned. You may risk not benefitting from the incoming links though.

10:11 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you Damien for your reply..
However Im not sure what you mean *nix? Is this a website or something?
The reason I ask this question, is because I run 15 different sites some on different "IPs" a lot of people requesting links are concerned about trading with a few of my sites as they are with the same IP.
Also people selling links often boast that links are on different IPs - as if it makes a difference.
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>what you mean *nix?

I meant unix or linux like operating systems, I think the 'host' program is used by most.
You can type the command from the command prompt.
If one of your websites is hosted on one of these operating systems, to try it just login with telnet or ssh and type

host webmasterworld.com

I don't think websites sharing ips is a problem (yet), but those that worry about it are probably right that it could be safer to have different ips. I think that if you create an 'artificial' link structure in a network it doesn't matter much of you use different ips or not though, it's going to be easy to detect. The way I see it the main advantage to different ips would have to be the incoming links having more value. I have not seen prove of that yet.

11:08 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All websites can't have static IP's because the authorities concerned do not let you buy IP's just for simple web hosting. It was the upcoming shortage of IP's that got Name Based Hosting out....! Let's see how much it impacts SEO.

I have been analyzing this Hosting and it's effects over SEO for the past few weeks and I have some of my findings almost ready in the form of an article. Soon, you will find it on one of those SERO Articles websites somewhere. I would have shared the link for the article, but I wonder it would be against the TOS. Probably people can find the link to the article when it's up from my website in the profile.

The overall idea is to see if Web Hosting Really effects Search Engine Rankings and if yes, to what extent and if not, what are the other pros and cons.

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>On *nix, one way to get the ip address of example.com is to type

>host example.com

On Windows, from a DOS prompt, type:

ping example.com

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>All websites can't have static IP's because the authorities concerned do not let you buy IP's just for simple web hosting. It was the upcoming shortage of IP's that got Name Based Hosting out....! Let's see how much it impacts SEO.

Unless things have changed recently, yes you can. They want a reason, but aren't very particular about what it is.

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I've never seen SE listings affected by IP addresses. People are grasping at straws.
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I think that the class C IP addresses should be different for sites that are of related subjects, otherwise it is ok to share class C IP's I could be wrong but I really doubt it from my experiences over the past few years. I am very interested in success stories for name based results.
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I've also never seen problems based on Class-C nets, but I always try to get IPs in other nets. :)
I wouldn't risk it if the sites are necessary for your daily bread, but I don't think it causes problem as long as you're just a light-grey hat. ;)