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i had a site that was doing awesome in the search engines up until a few weeks ago when i noticed the number of visitors decrease. i used to be number 2 or 3 in google and now i'm almost non existant.
my site is hosted with yahoo. i had another site that was hosted on my own server and i made a redirect going to the yahoo site through IIS. i think google has penalized me for this and that is why i'm not in google anymore. it seems like all my problems started a few days after i did this redirect.
how can i get back into google? i turned off the redirect and just put a regular old hyperlink to my yahoo site on the page that is being hosted on my IIS server. i just went to "submit a site" on google and entered the URL for my yahoo site as well as my IIS hosted site hoping they will be reindexed. will i ever get back to the way things were before or am i permanently on bad terms with google? thanks for any help.
A few weeks ago google made massive changes to the way it indexed web sites (called Flordia if you want to search the web for mroe info).
Florida dropped tens of thousands of sites from top 10 positions to off the map so your site could also be one of those affected by this.
If you used a 301 re-direct it shouldn't have made a difference.
You are going to need to wait for the SE's to re-index your web site now. To check if they have go to the SE and type in cache: followed by your domain name. If the page has been updated then you know it was because of Florida. If it hasn't changed yet you know the re-direct is the more probable reason.
Simon.
i have no idea if i did the rediret properly by the way. i just went into IIS, clicked on the home directory tab, and used the "when connecting to this resource, content should come from: a redirection to a URL" option and then typed in the name of the yahoo site URL.
A lot of searchers are going there now.
About 2 months ago we were ranking on the 4th page for google for our best keywords. We had almost no optimization. Plus our keywords are highly spammed, especially by *** sites. (We are located in "Sin City"). So we just left it.
Then, for about 3 weeks our site just completely dropped off the map. We weren't doing anything remotely "illegal" according to the google gods. We really weren't. I used this time to begin optimizing our pages, adding meta tags, waiting to see what would happen next...
Then we reappeared on google, way... WAY down the list, without a description and very old pages cashed. Almost as bad.
But now, for the last 2 weeks we're in the top 5 of google for our best keywords. Yippee! And lots of the spammy pages have dissappeared.
Now, often, depending on when we run a search, sometimes we're missing, back at page 4, or on top again. It really dances. But more and more we seem to be staying back at #4 & #5 for our keywords. Also, all of a sudden, we're showing up on the other top SE's, also in the top 5.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Google is on Prozac, and really, all we can do is watch and wait. And try not to go nutz ourselves.
Don't worry too much about google, see how you are doing on altavista.com...A lot of searchers are going there now.
john316, with all due respect, do you know of many people who have abandoned Google for Altavista or are you trying to encourage people to use Altavista?
Altavista was my first love since the day it indexed my notepad created site years ago, and I still believe in it.
I find the results for most searches better on Altavista than nearly any other search engine, but for the obscure stuff nothing beats Google's 4 billion pages.
The reality is, most people use Google and will probably continue to do so unless MSN pushes its way onto the scene by incorporating their super search into the next Windows operating system.
For those of us who have taken a beating in this last Google update, and I got it on the nose, it might be worth considering adding a new domain and focusing on slightly different aspects while leaving the original one unchanged until Google makes up its mind as to what it wants to be when it grows up.
john316, with all due respect, do you know of many people who have abandoned Google for Altavista or are you trying to encourage people to use Altavista?
I (and many others) find myself using Ink and AV a lot more for searches now a days.
Having read this thread I thought I'd give Altavista a go, but all I got was a server error message.
AV's been giving those a lot lately.
I think the major increase in traffic has put unexpected load on their servers, probably doing some upgrades.
I wouldn't count on it.
...the one oddball regarding rankings
That's what made Google so successful in the first place.
If they were on prozac they probably would not be so insane. I think I'll send them a bottle... It is probably really cheap now that people can't sell it via their Adwords.
On the current quality, it sucks big, big time. Wake up and try searching for information than products :)
On the current quality, it sucks big, big time. Wake up and try searching for information than products :)
Or YOU could wake up and try using Overture for product searches. *cough*cough*
product searches.
I dont give a biggie to product searches. I might save a $2 on another SE. But, the information that i might be seeking is very vital to me.
And show me any search from av that does better than G for information.
I dont give a biggie to product searches.
Oh... you don't? "Wake up and try searching for information than products :)" would imply that you do.
Google is still okay, just not the best anymore.
