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Trying to kill pages that Google won't let die

         

steveb

3:33 am on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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First of all, redirecting is not possible so don't think about that here.

I have five pages that I moved just before Florida to new locations on the same domain.

First page continues to show in the results (for about the fifth fresh tag now) with "Original Page Title" displayed in the serps, but if you look at the page cache it will show "Page Moved Title". And my new page with "Original Page Title" doesn't show in the serps, unless you add a -filenameofoldpage.

Another page continues to display its old title, even though I've completely deleted this page. The new page doesn't show up unless you -filenameofoldpage (it shows fine for phrases on the new page). Google originally saw all these moved pages as duplicate content, but I got the bot to run through them and it appears now is knows they are different, but the old pages seem to have more link power residue, so the new pages don't show up (new pages have the same pagerank and more/better backlinks showing though). In trying to make this second page disappear, I first linked to it so googlebot would see it didn't have the keywords on the page anymore, but now I am linking to the 404 location where there is nothing at all. That still doesn't get the old page removed though.

Two of the other five pages, the new ones passed the old ones in the rankings and the old ones just show as indented results. In one case the old result is the main one, while the new page is indented. I've deleted two of these pages, while leaving up a "page moved" page for one.

Old page titles are not dying, despite the pages being crawled every day and getting fresh tags. A page the bot knows is definitely not there also continues to hold ranking. There may be some duplicate content residue here, but I'm puzzled as to why these old page titles won't die, even under different cirumstances.

takagi

12:59 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



If a spider encounters a 404 (Not Found), then it could come back to check if the file remains 'Not Found'. So you better use 301 (Moved Permanently) if you have a new URL. By doing so, you can also transfer some of the PageRank to the new pages. For on purpose deleted files use 410 (Gone) or add the URL to the 'robots.txt' file.

See also this page [google.com] on Google's site to find out how to speed up removing outdated pages.