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So basically I'm just curious if there is some sort of penalty applied to the domain without it being a full ban? Is that possible?
Google's help email was used, but it was pretty canned/generic responses
- Shawn
I removed the topic and the forum section and the site was spidered fully 3 days later.
Given the fact that google had just signed a new deal with this company a few weeks earlier, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a request was made to stop spidering the site.
I've watched the spider stats since the site went up and this has never happened before.
This is what a company looks like that is heading for a huge IPO, once I realized what was happening and just how much money was involved I dumped the content since my site would have been off google anyway within a few weeks, it was however nice to see that they didn't really care that much once the offending material was gone, and it wasn't worth it to me to argue the point, since they wouldn't have admitted it anyway.
But it is a nice lesson, makes you remember that google is not some mystical entity floating pure above the clouds, but is a company just like any other, which means of course the bottom line is number one, so whatever that bottom line needs is what is done.
This is what a company looks like that is heading for a huge IPO, once I realized what was happening and just how much money was involved I dumped the content since my site would have been off google anyway within a few weeks, it was however nice to see that they didn't really care that much once the offending material was gone, and it wasn't worth it to me to argue the point, since they wouldn't have admitted it anyway.
If that were true, then how come the paid inclusion forums are being spidered for WebmasterWorld?
Excuse me if I scratch my head. I can't follow your logic here at all. Webmasterworld.com is the premier web development website on the internet, what I was doing had absolutely nothing to do with what webmasterworld is doing. I had few rules, people could slag the google client in question to their hearts content, and they did, to the point that pretty much any search for such problems would take you to my site, which is of course why I had to deal with kicking their techs off.
I don't blame google at all for doing this, by the way, I have to do things for my clients too that I don't like to keep the cash flowing, that doesn't mean I'm always happy to do them, but I do do them. Business is business, unfortunately.
If this helps clear it up for you, good.
That being said, the paid inclusion forums badmouth Google from time to time. These pages are clearly spidered by Googlebot.
My question to you was : If G deindexes sites that badmouth G, why is everything in the paid inclusion forum still in G?
-p
Because google is doing this IPO it's critical for them to get their cash flow situation to the very highest level before the stock issue occurs, this means less emphasis on high end search, more emphasis on taking care of their clients and their primary income generators, such as adwords, which from what I've read in these forums are the primary target of the new algorythm, that is, increase income from adwords at the expense of their previously fairly unbiased search results. We've seen this before with other search engines.
Anyway, I just found it interesting to be on the receiving end of this new reality, it was predictable, which is why I was watching to see if it would happen, and it did. So no surprise, just an ongoing education.
- Shawn
digitalpoint: Is there any chance that the links that the site you mention are owned by the same company, on the same server, or otherwise related?
Are they reciprocal links?
I've noticed that google's link: function is not working very accurately
I don't ever remember it working accurately.
It wasn't actually that the googlebot was blocked entirely, it just was hitting only its entry page and stopping, always, after the above events occured, it was very unique behavior which I've never seen on any of my sites, and which wasn't happening on any of my other sites at that time, it was very clear what was happening, although I'd be curious to know just what it is google can and can't make their spider do.
No, I'm not hosted on godaddy, I'm hosted on a top quality hoster.
It wasn't actually that the googlebot was blocked entirely, it just was hitting only its entry page and stopping, always, after the above events occured, it was very unique behavior which I've never seen on any of my sites, and which wasn't happening on any of my other sites at that time, it was very clear what was happening
I'm having the same problem with one of my domains. What did you do to fix this?
-p
I'm having the same problem with one of my domains. What did you do to fix this?
I deleted the content, which was sort of a drag sine it was getting such excellent results, but it was either that or put up a new domain name, minus the offending content. Since I made no money off the content, and it was getting to be a lot of work maintaining it, letting it go was an easy decision.
I can't say what is causing it in your case however, since I don't know what your site is dealing with, or if the cause is related.
I'm still seeing unusual activity, or inactivity, but that might now be because of the Florida thing, I'll have to see.
Anyhow, I'll try changing my index page to see if maybe I can get my other pages indexed.
