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At least they acknowledge it. :)
But would you work for a company that said
"We've got it all sewn up, but maybe we can find something for you to do if you join us"?
DerekH
The Googler who came up with that idea needs a bonus imho.
SN
However, including VB.Net as an accepted language and omitting Delphi is just plain stupid. Borland Pascal is far from the perfect programming language, but when it comes to creating elegant code it beats C/Basic and their relatives hands down.
C is an intrinsically ugly and dirty language. It has therefore resulted in a vast amount of ugly, dirty and buggy code being written over the years. MS Windows is the prime example. Of course C programmers always claim that Pascal is slow and inefficient. However, the truth is that when C programmers attempt to write in Pascal they produce slow and inefficient code and then blame the language rather than themselves.
Rant over,
Kaled.
Those of us who migrated from IBM 360 to UNIX have a great fondness for everything related to UNIX, that obviously includes C.
quote of the day - "We have some serious problems.. "
they have hundreds of employees, quite possibly some of the best programmers / sysadmin / system engineers in the world .. and yet they still have the balls to openly admit they are screwed.
There was a theory in another thread that Google's current problems are due to having taken on some former MS programmers. If true, that would explain a great deal.
Mohammed_E,
I appreciate that C (and its derivatives) is much loved the world over, however, omitting Delphi from a programming competition is crazy. I suspect that its advanced string handling, and other features mean that Delphi programmers would be at an unfair advantage.
Kaled.
including VB.Net as an accepted language and omitting Delphi is just plain stupid
And Python is neither in the list. Given that Google has a fame of liking it I find that a little odd.
I suspect that its advanced string handling, and other features mean that Delphi programmers would be at an unfair advantage.
If that's the case then it's silly. The contest is about "read the problem statements, then code solutions, compile and test those solutions and submit the code for points"; slowing the pace making the developer code (for the nth time) its own primitives would take all the fun away.
it looks like google thought it would be cool to leverage that.
i know a couple of people who've won a few topcoder contests. i suspect they're drooling right about now.
Kaled.
(a) nnoying Marketing Talk. IE - Think Outside The Box, Stretch The Envelope, Brand Synergy, Flawless Implementation of Key Solutions, Game Plan, Hardball, Value Added, Strategic Goals, Gap Analysis, At The End Of The Day, Strategic Fit..etc..
;)
To me, "We've got serious problems" is not an admission of trouble or a cry for help but simple marketing fluff.
Problem does not automatically equate to trouble
Problems doesn't have to equate to SNAFU or fubar
problem: 1. a question to be considered, solved, or answered
Houston, we've got a problem.
Don't remember - was this marketing, ...!? ;)
This is the same weekend as RubyConf 2003, and I'm already giving a talk there (and have plane tickets).
but i can't be bothered with making it so, for i've got nothing better to do than to think how glad i am that i think that i'm glad that i am.
:>
From google's dictionary, "leverage" means:
My goodness, this is not "Google's dictionary"; it's dictionary.com. Dictionary.com in turn licenses content from American Heritage, which is the source of the definition you quoted.
(Sorry to be a nitpicking jerk :) -- what you said is completely understandable, it's just that attribution on the web has always been a big pet issue of mine.)
I thought these posters were just kidding around, but now that my sense of humor has leveled off, it seems like these posts suggest no exposure to complexity theory.
[edited by: dpplgngr at 6:17 pm (utc) on Sep. 18, 2003]
Google's saying the same thing: challenge. For programmers, it's a stronger draw than mere money. [This not being a programmers' forum, many people may find that hard to believe. Fair enough. If you could believe it, you'd have probably considered being a programmer instead of whatever you are.]
At first I chuckled when I read your note... but after thinking about it for a moment, I just shook my head, realizing that it was actually not far from what would indeed likely happen. It's similar to the issue of why so many lawyers insidiously prevent their clients from ever offering sincere apologies (despite recent studies which show that a huge number of lawsuits could actually be PREVENTED or DEFUSED by such an act of contrition!)
We Americans often fly off the handle when we perceive threats to our short term gains. And while perhaps this belongs in the Google IPO topic, I am worried about what will happen when Google goes public <sigh>.
