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Have about 30 pages of content. Googlebot shows up in the logs everyday but it's been over a month and still no PR. It's affecting my ability to convince other webmasters to link to me.
We've not submitted the site to any automated submissions scripts, FFA pages etc. No spam, no cloaking, no hidden links... everything by the book. Still no PR :-(
Does anyone know how long it takes?
If you've already got a few good sites linking to you, then I would focus on making the site better, adding more content, sections, cleaning up any design issues, checking page load times, etc. Every site I manage I view as a 'work in progress' and there is always just one more thing that needs doing. ;)
Every site I manage I view as a 'work in progress' and there is always just one more thing that needs doing
That's why I'm not doing an ODP submission.. cause some pages are not complete. But then they'll ALWAYS be work that needs to be done so I'll have to take a chance on ODP sometime I suppose.
1-3 months you reckon? I've just gotta wait then :-(
Problem comes when you try to do reciprocal linking, usually pr0 pages are avoided.
Kris
Just my 2 cents
dforce, welcome to the forum and good luck with your site :-)
kriskd, thanks. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I've put a lot of good PR6 and PR7 links in place. It would be nice to debut with a PR4 ;-) How many incoming links did you have to open your scoring with a 4?
How many incoming links did you have to open your scoring with a 4?
To open with a PR4, all you need is one link : a PR5 link.
To open with a PR7, all you need is one link : a PR8 link.
It's not about numbers, it's about "quantity of good quality inbound links".
PR is not a true reflection of that. You need to look behind the scenes and ignore the score out of 10.
To truly build a succesful website using google, these days you have to look at PR from a different perspective.
TJ
open with a PR4, all you need is one link : a PR5 link
I think that works internally within your site. If your home page is a PR7 and you link to one internal page, that page will be a PR6.
I have some PR7 links to the new site, and some PR6. I'd be delighted if the first PR on I saw on the new home page is a 6 :-)
I had many incoming links when I made the jump, perhaps around 100 according to marketleap, but I think the one that did it was my mom linking to me from her PR5 page. That would follow Trillian's "rules of PR" to the 'T'.
My mom got my link up ASAP and I believe that was what got me in search engines so fast too.
I should suggest mom accept advertisers for links on her page from people like us who want/need the PR! (Just kidding!)
Kris
I think that works internally within your site. If your home page is a PR7 and you link to one internal page, that page will be a PR6.
That's correct - a link is a link, whether it's external or internal. The weighting is different in google, but it's still just linking.
The general rule of thumb is, assuming you have only one link to a page - the linkee page will be a PR of 1 less than the PR of the linkor page.
If I have a new site, and I get a link from a PR5 page to my index page, my index page is *likely* to be a PR4, and the internal pages of the site are *likely* to be a PR3, if they are linked directly from my index page.
So the homepage of a site can get a PR4 rank from a single inbound link. And you can spread the love around your site how you think is the most effective.
However, a homepage which has a PR4 rank because it has, say, 25 good PR3 incoming links with it's main keywords in the anchor text, will perform better in the SERPS that the page with one PR5 inbound link with anchor text pointing to it.
Even though both pages show PR4 in the toolbar.
So it's not just a case of PR - you have to factor in quantity (and anchor text here really is key) as well as quality.
It's more than just a number.
TJ
If I have a new site, and I get a link from a PR5 page to my index page, my index page is *likely* to be a PR4,
"Likely" is noted, so just as a counterpoint, I have links from a PR6 page to a new site but six months later it is just a PR4.
OTOH, I set up a new blog and it was showing PR0 in a few weeks (<4) and is PR5 two months later. I don't think it has any PR6 pages linking to it but over 80 pages of lower PR.
I think the one that did it was my mom linking to me from her PR5 page
I've got hundreds of PR5 pages on three other websites. Would it make sense for me to put anchor text on all those pages to further boost the PR of the new site's home page? Or would that be just as effective as one link from a PR5 page from each of those sites? In other words does G devalue the subsequent links if they come from the same domain?
If I don't link from every PR5 page I've got, and based on kriskd and trillianjedi's comments, I should likely start with a PR6 anyway because of the PR7 links I've got (in addition to some PR6, 5 and 4).
This is subject of course to exceptions like anallawalla. anallawalla - any ideas on what caused the decline in PR?
