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If PR7 pages link to your site and their content / theme is totally irrelevant to your site, would this help boost PR and SERPS?
Eg. Your site is about Electronics, and you have a lot of PR7 links from a Fashion site
Please share your opinions and experiences. Thank you.
For now. But some don't care. There's a different model from the long-term view of creating established long-term sites. If sites can make enough short term, so what if they come and go and clean up big time before they have to pack it in. Some can make more in one month than what other "normal" sites make in a year.
Big difference between the long term and the short term views.
Plainly said, in certain high roller markets, you cannot make it to the top without paying your way there. Get bounced out? So what, after the checks are cashed? The basic skills are still there just like they were in the first place.
Site gets banned? So what! They know how to do more and get right back there with others for as long as those will last. And on it goes.
It's a different business model altogether than those who are focused on creating stability with the long term in view.
given the assumption that other things have first been done for the groundwork...
Precisely.
It's usually the folks who have a tenuous grasp on the groundwork who are falling behind in the first place. For those, the vitamin boost will not work.
A handful of PR 7 links is not the magic pill that will turn the 90 lb weakling into Mr. Universe. You have to lay the groundwork.
Sure, I build the groundwork for my site too but at the same time I keep my eyes and ears open to what's currently working. If Google give importance to external links then suffice it to say...I really don't care where my links are coming from, regardless if they are relevant to my site or not. If I have to buy a PR7 to boost my own PR or position then I will. As others have already pointed out, how can Google say for sure that the link pointing to my site is not relevant.
Beside, it's easy to fake the relevancy of the link. For instance, let's say I bought a PR7 link but it's not closely related to the topic of my site. All I have to do, if I'm after a relevant link is include a halfway content that would bridge the relevancy of that link to my site. Sure, it might dampen the PR a little bit if I bridge it but who cares, it's effect is insignificant.
<added>If my site is about electronics and I have a lot of PR7 links from fashion site then I'll just have them link to a page about electronic sewing machine, electronic embroidery, etc...so many ways to make those fashion links directly relevant to an electronic site. </added>
The problem remains if one buys a link with non-related anchor textm, simply to gain more junk traffic from SEs, but such site don't survive too long and their poor marketing model is their best filter.
How does internal links affect your ranking? Is it true that everypage should have a link linking back to home page?
Finally to have a well ranking site, how many internal web links should one have on their site.
Thanks!
Logically I even have a hard time understanding why Google would even care. A site selling widgets is linked to another site selling widgets so therefore the link is more important? Hang on folks, why would these competitive sites be linking? One good reason would be that they are owned by the same people. Now should that increase the boost or decrease it?
Back to basics....a link should be a vote, unless a very complex algo is in place trying to do much more it is prone to all sorts of dangers.
Ask, Ink and WN has no idea about site content....it is all about anchor text. Try it;)
Google currently is probably less "smart" than its competitors.....I'm sure it knows nothing about the true theme of a site or the "theme" value to place on such links.
In general take every link you can get, even better if the anchortext is good, even better if its related or on topic. For now or for the future.
I generally do this. If i see a good site and get a link from them I try to reciprocate it from my site. That site gets my Vote. If sufficient sites have given me vote then due to my citation (link) graph my links to other sites also plays important role in Google Serps.
And its good because every person who links to me has given me their vote. For a directory submission you have one human review ... but here I get my website reviewed by so many humans. Hence the concern of Google when people try automated link exchanges without looking at sites.
I really mean it. Study a democracy. Helped me a lot in my SEO :)
I was a really good exaple of just how important those inbound text links can be.
I have no problems with getting inbound links on alltheweb, lycos, alta vista etc....but its tough getting inbound links from google referrals.
Any suggestions?
I have no problems with getting inbound links on alltheweb, lycos, alta vista etc....but its tough getting inbound links from google referrals.
Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by getting inbound links on all of those search engines? Links, what links? Just, confused. :)
It's a different business model altogether than those who are focused on creating stability with the long term in view.
Bingo! It's the same as investing. Some people go into it with a gambler's mindset. They focus on the quick hit and get out,in and then back out. The long view is to build a portfolio that will increase in equity over a period of years. The value will go up some and down some over time but over the long haul will show a steady average increase.
The same is true of business owners. Some just want to dump a truckload of goods over a weekend and move on. Others need a truckload every week because they are building for the future.
A long term search engine strategy focuses on designing search engine and visitor friendly pages. The goal is to generate repeat visitors who,hopefully,will add the site or a page of it to their favorites list for the future. They may not buy on the first visit or the second but they eventually will. The long-term view targets specific types of customers and tries to retain their traffic. Good intrasite traffic is always cool. Repeat visits are very good and referrals from the visitor to others that bring in direct traffic is great. You can't buy good word of mouth referrals.
PR can't be the only consideration in site design. It's good for getting rank and traffic but if your site is not customer friendly that traffic won't convert to your satisfaction. Focus on the customer and you'll make money. Focus on PR and you'll get PR.
Imagine the overhead and he intend to do internet business for a very long time. His investments is not towards his various sites but his investment is to insure his internet business, big difference.
You might identify him as a spammer but to him it is just a financial opportunity that he's good at exploiting. Of course his main sites are professionally designed, user friendly, all the good stuff that users would love to see.
But, does he care about his main sites? As long as it makes money, that's good with him. How about those other doorway sites, is he scared that it will get banned? So what, there's plenty of domain names to register and for $9-13 per year, it's peanuts for him.
During pre-Google days, webmasters talk of "How can we beat [Search Engine] algo?" and it was okay, it was the norm then.
Google come along, heralding as to what is the proper and ethical webmasters practices, promising both rewards and punishments. A carrot was dangled in front of our face.
Some of us have become fixated with this carrot that everytime Google cracks its whip, you obey and no question ask. But guess what? That carrot is still a donkey-tail away. To add insult to your injury, from time to time a rabbit will come along and grab the carrot away.
You complained and threaten to disobey. A new carrot is quickly put in place and you fall back to your comfort zone never asking as to how did the rabbit got away with the carrot. Another rabbit come along and the pattern is repeated. Resigned to the struggle of forever trying to reach that elusive carrot.
Whether you like it or not. Webmasters and Search Engines have conflict of interest. Whether you are adjusting your keywords densities or requesting links, you are in fact challenging the algo. Strictly speaking, you are a search engine spammer as oppose to someone who doesn't know anything about search engines.
You stayed within 'Google' acceptable practices then someone beat you to the top and you realize that perhaps it's the site PR and now you are in a dilemma. Should I buy that link from a PR7 site?
Is there a ethical or moral issue here? Of course not, you can buy your links anytime you want. Whether it's static or scripted, it's all the same thing...it's called advertisement ;) . Would that be acceptable to Google?
Why would you report your normal business practice to Google? Is Google your master?
Cheers ;)
I disagree, unless you have a 10 or 20 page site. You should link to your top directories or categories, and those pages should link to the respective pages within that directory or category. Themes.
