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playersgroup

11:06 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)



If I have domain.com/Widgets will it be treated different than domain.com/widgets . Will these be 2 separate pages in google?

stcrim

1:46 am on Aug 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Plurals are valuable - CAPS are not! When writing your copy think of all the ways a KW can be used and might be searched...

-s-

MHes

9:34 am on Aug 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi

I think (98%) that the pages will be seen as the same. If you have both on your server google will only list one.

bether2

11:23 pm on Aug 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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playersgroup,

Before I knew better, I used the format "domain.com/Widgets.htm" - with the capital letter.

However, some of my inbound links use the format: "domain.com/widgets.htm" - with lower case.

Until about a month ago, Google knew that they were the same page. But now I'm noticing that, in some cases, google is showing both pages separately in the SERPs - one following the other. I'm hoping that this is a temporary glitch, since I have some concern about these being considered duplicate pages.

I'd like change all of my pages so the names are all lower case, but I'm not sure if that would result in some unexpected complications. If anyone has any ideas about this, please let me know.

Beth

kevinpate

12:51 am on Aug 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Beth,

When I took on the nfp site I'm cutting my teeth on, it had a variety of file name structure such as ALLCAP.htm, only-small.htm, Mixed_Case.htm and even name split.htm (renders as name%20split.htm)

Not knowing any better at the time, I started out doing the same with new pages. Then I learned from folks here and elsewhere that, well, ick.

I've been converting file names over, as time permits, to
all-small.htm or allsmall.htm and doing permanent redirects
in htaccess. Seems all the se bots get a fair grip on the new name fairly easily save one. That one does find the new pages, but also comes around trying to slurp up pages that are long since gone. I have seen some lessening of the twilight zone hunts though so I presume it just takes it longer to purge than other bots.

bether2

3:46 am on Aug 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kevinpate,

Thanks for the help! I'm a dummy about redirects, but I know there's a bunch of info about that on this site. So I'll go take a look.

Beth

Good_Vibes

12:39 pm on Sep 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't Google see caps in queries as the same?
In other words, isn't "Pay for Dogs" the same as "pay for dogs" (no quotes)?
And of course the same 2 queries WITH quotes would be read as different queries.

coolasafanman

7:25 am on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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DMOZ has some categories with the first letter capitalized and if you go to the same url minus the caps, it doesn't register. i like all lowercase.

PCInk

8:40 am on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Widgets.html and widgets.html may be the same on a Windows server (possibly Linux too), but on Apache and Zues, they are treated as completely different files.

Maybe why Google sees them as different.

Editted: Thought about this a bit: Should read Apache and Zeus on UNIX systems treat different cases as different files. It is UNIX that causes this.

[edited by: PCInk at 11:21 am (utc) on Sep. 11, 2003]

irock

8:53 am on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just curious...

Do craps in title count when searching on Google?

If so, there's no reason to put caps on titles as no one would put caps in their search queries.

lasko

9:08 am on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey irock

I know spelling is not an issues but be careful what you wright :)

I believe in the older days of search engines CAPS did make a difference but I don't think anymore.

:)

Tropical Island

11:13 am on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I learned the hard way when I switched from a MS server to a Linux. I was using some caps in file extensions. The search engines would sometimes have the caps and sometimes not. On the MS server it made no difference however on Linux they are two seperate files.

When the changeover was finsished I noticed a huge increase in 404's due to the caps or no caps in the url's. I solved the problem with a custom 404 and have now changed all the urls to lower case only.

benc007

7:12 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is it better to have a page named:

keyword_one_two_three.html

OR

keyword-one-two-three.html

?

How do you decide to name a page in singular or plural form?

ie. keyword.html versus keywords.html

NFFC

7:19 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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keyword-one-two-three.html is better than keyword_one_two_three.html

The question you need to be asking yourself is;

Is keyword-keyword1-keyword2.com/keyword/keyword-one-two-three.html better than brandxyz.com/keyword.html?