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1. Keyword in Title Meta tag
2. Keyword in Description Meta tag
3. Keyword in Body text
4. Keyword density - 1-7%(?) - No more, no less. Results will vary. 5. Page Rank/Links - best if from related sites with higher PRs
6. Sufficient Content (Google seems to like bigger sites, more content)
7. Keyword in incoming links
8. Keyword in incoming link text
9. Keyword in text surrounding incoming link text
10. Keyword in <H1> tags
11. Keyword in outgoing links - best if to related sites with higher PRs
12. Keyword in outgoing link text
13. Keyword in text surrounding outgoing link text
14. Keyword in alt image tags
15. Keyword in bold
16. Keyword in italics
17. Keyword in domain or sub domain name
18. Keyword in keywords Meta tag
Hope all this does not generate Google anti-SEO algorithms.
Maybe a little off-topic:
I think google can't really establish that because they need the same factors to work.
I mean popularity, prominence, etc. are used to qualify pages.
At last they could filter pages only heavily optimized.
Gus
I don't know if it works or just my own superstition, but keeping your pages, especially index page, updated daily seems to help
No Superstition. See Msg 15 in this thread by Ogletree :-
Number 3 should be change something on all your pages every day. Freshbot is your friend. Fresh content seems to be king.
From an oldie who is fascinated by the algo, but does not even know what HTML is..
As a test arranged to have a one page site, no directories, no links, therefore PR0, but exactly the text that I think G algo likes.
Result? Still No. 1 out of 385,000 after its second dance.
As a test arranged to have a one page site, no directories, no links, therefore PR0, but exactly the text that I think G algo likes.
Exactly - It's all guesswork with respect to the way Google is operating now. The rolling update and rolling SERPs
are designed to defeat SEO. Take a look at a lot of SERPs
across a wide spectrum of keywords and phrases. The top 10-20 reflect little or no SEO.
Where is all this headed? Take a guess.
Result? Still No. 1 out of 385,000 after its second dance.
As long as the page you built offers relevant content to the search terms, and isn't spam, that's good isn't it?
TJ
As for SPAM..as I don't have a clue how to do a web page, I have to rely on a youngster to do it for me.
Did find on another site that I got on to first page of G, against 9 million, that he had 1 pixel things that I read about on here. Fortunately no links or anything, but I persuaded him that it was important that they were removed, despite his protestations that he always used them for design purposes.
Was just making the point that text for the visitor could outweigh all the other things that I read about on here, but don't understand.
e.g. What the dickens is anchor text, cos the youngster doesn't know?
and as has just been posted above...allinanchor?
Dave
What is done to make it a reasonable size without Google ignoring it as a h1
Just use CSS to define a new font for h1 tags.
This may work:
<H1><font face="verdana" color="teal" size="+1"><b>Buy Widgets Here</font></H1>
Hey, how do you include a quote from someone in a box like I see other posters doing?
I have a site that has been very static and has remained #1 for years on Google.
It has over 1,000 non-reiprocal links, many with the keyword in the anchor text and decent keyword density, but naturally so.
So freshness is not everything either.
How did Google find this one page site that wasn't linked to anything? Crawlers need things to crawl along.
[edited by: merlin30 at 11:09 am (utc) on Aug. 22, 2003]
Hey, how do you include a quote from someone in a box like I see other posters doing?
Check out the Quote function on this page ... [webmasterworld.com...]
How did Google find this one page site that wasn't linked to anything? Crawlers need things to crawl along.
Actually it doesn't. A submit URL alone *can* get you into google, you just won't stay there very long.
TJ
Ok, thanks. But wont this dilute any boost given by Google for a <h1> tag? It seems like we might as well use a direct <h3> or smaller.
Dave
But wont this dilute any boost given by Google for a <h1> tag?
No, because it's still an <h1> "tag".
TJ
Exactly - It's all guesswork with respect to the way Google is operating now. The rolling update and rolling SERPs are designed to defeat SEO. Take a look at a lot of SERPs across a wide spectrum of keywords and phrases. The top 10-20 reflect little or no SEO.
I disagree. Look at steveb's message #38. I generally agree when he says :-
There is no guesswork. Serps nearly mirror allinanchor. That's almost everything. Laser beam anchor text...
Not the rest of the message though ;)
1. The age of your site to be very important. You may work hard to get links but from my experience Google will slowly increase your backlinks by 10% at a time. If your competitors are not working as hard as you to add good backlinks (PR4 and above) you can get past them. But if they are, you will never catch up as they will also increase their backlink count by the same percentage.
2. Hyphenated keywords (www.blue-widgets.com) gives you an enormous advantage (i.e over www.bluewidgets.com). Relatively new sites with hyphenated keywords, few back links and otherwise poor optimization, seem to do surprisingly well.
3. The size of your site (with good content) is also a factor as each page will pass on the PR.
4. I strongly suspect that the number of visitors to your site is also a factor which cannot be discounted. I suspect that Google has some way of determining this.
Just my .02cents
On one search phrase where I rank 1 & 2, I have 31 pages that show up for that search phrase #1 has the highest PR and is 11k. #2 is the largest file for that term at 56k. #3 is 48k and most of the rest are 6k to 15k.
In the general search on this term, there are probably a dozen 101k files in the top 50 SERPs.
Make your files small (meaning less than 20k so it loads fairly fast) for the sake of the user. I really doubt that it makes much of a difference to Google, and all the "proof" that I have seen has had some major logical flaws in the research.
Small is good in this instance ;)
Keep the page size below 20K, need more terms...make more pages.
1. Keyword in Title Meta tag
2. Keyword in Anchor text inbound link
3. Keyword in URL (not necessarily domain name)
4. Keyword in Description Meta tag
5. H1
6. H3
7. H2
8. Alt image tags
9. Content
10. Content
11. Content
12. Content
13. Content
14. Content
Would anyone care to give a rough estimate of the number of characters in each one of these sections? For example maybe 60 characters (not including spaces) for the title... ect.. whatever your SEO experience is with the maximum number of characters per section would be very interesting to know.
Would anyone care to give a rough estimate of the number of characters in each one of these sections?
title - no more than 60 chars
just because google won't display more on the page and you don't want your listing crumpled, now do ya'
description - keep under 200 chars
keywords - keep under 1000 chars although they say (and I quite agree) that in GBot algo this point ranks quite low.
Val
