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I'm not entirely sure how Google selects UK IPs. Some ISPs count as UK or US IPs depending on which of their servers you're on.
IMO even if you have a .co.uk, you can find your rankings affected in both the UK search and the main Google search for some phrases.
I am having similar problems. Great listing on .com nothing on .co.uk, even though teh site is a uk site (but is a .com).
I have checked out teh ip address of our isp (PSINET) and it all aapears to be geared up as a uk IP range.
Why with all the technology afforded by Google can they not ID the Country of origin of a web site by additional means other than mentioned above.
The information is available.
This is an area which effects many many sites especially with the low cost hosting solutions available in the USA.
It is IMHO something which will have to be addressed by all SE's in the future - preferably in terms of months - not years.
1. Local TLD .co.uk (if no local TLD)then
2. Local IP address
There are rare cases where a page with many links from .co.uk have appeared in the listing.
It gets crazier when you look at language/geo variation like Germany
If Germany is selected the rules are:
1. Local TLD .de (if no local TLD) then
2. Local language German (if no TLD nor German) then
3. Local IP address
If German language is selected the rules are:
1. Local Language German (if no local language) then
2. Local TLD (.de, .ch .at) (if no TLD nor language) then
3. Local IP Address (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)
They have used a few other options as in the past but thy were abused so they went after the easiest to check and hardest to manipulate.
I just checked and you are right - I hadn't checked the UK pages button!
Surely though wouldn't it make sense for Google to check its own directory and if a website is listed regionally then to make sure that it is visible on the corresponding regional Google results? After all I am aware that UK based .com's hosted in the US are scrutinised most closely by DMOZ editors to confirm that they are in fact UK sites when submitted to UK regional categories.
Seem's to me that if the market that you are trying to reach is country specific ..then a country specific address is only appropriate.
for so long .com has been a one size fits all, I think many will be in for a big suprise if they were to take even a cursoy look at the rise of ccTLD registrations.
So many are competing for placement, so instead of fighting for that placement with a one size fits all extension, why not give your website an advantage and simply register a .co.uk ..
I realize you want to get into google.co.uk without having to buy a co.uk ..but I see that as simply ignoring your best option.
Also, on my particular case my market is global so registering the .com makes more sense. Even more, my market is American for a worldwide audience but Americans and UK customers are these more often purchasing my services being UK more than half of my Americans customers. Yet, what I sell is based in the US
I will happily also purchase the co.uk domain but as you must know simply having the domain withing optimising it is not good and you could not optimise it as you will be doing duplicated sites unless you want to do two different sites and I am not for it
Nevertheless, I am not trying to discuss what it should be or it shouldnt, what is appropriate or what is not or whose fault is or it isnt, despite I appreciate your tips. What I am asking is if somebody knows how to get a .com domain with US host in Google.co.uk but obviously the answer is not and apparently there are many others in my same situation
[edited by: jeyval at 3:51 am (utc) on June 18, 2003]
I would think the best way would be to get links FROM .co.uk sites. That ought to do it.
BTW..the "global Market use a .com " dosent hold water.. IMO any more.. That's the reason you are having trouble right now..lol ..
It I could turn the clock back I think I should have opted for the .co.uk but I cant and who would risk since my .com have quite good rankings just now
Another solution I suppose will be simply moving this particular domain to a uk host but again, we all now how difficult is put a site in the top so would not be me the one who risk a false move
Thanks everybody for its imput
IMHO the IP address and the domain name should not be the only indicators that should be used. For example, I choose to host Australian sites in the US but why is the physical server location of relevance to people querying Google for widgets in Australia?
Secondly, the '.com' extension is global and many businesses choose not to use the country extension for a range of reasons (marketing, branding, length of domain name etc.).
With all the focus on content I would have thought a content-based algorithm might help in this area. I have been tempted to get the '.com.au' extension of some of my sites and park them on the '.com' but am worried that might make things worse :).
Hmmm...... seems to have gone again now, I guess it's fluxing right now, fingers crossed.
I hope everyone else with this problem starts to see things get back to normal, if not try emailing google.