One page site with a PR of 5

what the?!?

[elgumbo]

Hi

A competitor of mine has a 1 page site that since the last update now ranks above me with an equal page rank of 5.

It's a pretty new site (I've never seen it before), KW density is practically non existent and google shows only 2 back links (DMOZ and the Google Directory).

Is this site here to stay? Or is it just a temporary slip up on Googles part? Any feedback appreciated.

[WebGuerrilla]

The number of backlinks isn't important. It's the PR of the linking pages that count. So the answer to your question is yes, it is here to stay if the PR of the two links is enough to give it a PR5.

[Zapatista]

It could also have 100 PR3 links that wouldn't show up in the backlinks.

[elgumbo]

Doh! that's not what I wanted to hear!

It is strange though as my site is also listed on the same DMOZ / Google directory page and a quick check on market leap puts their inbound links at 60 and mine at 715.

[nancyb]

puts their inbound links at 60 and mine at 715

But ... are theirs PR8's and yours PR3's? The only way to analyze this is to chek the PR of all their incoming links - and yours. If your "level" is still higher, then that's another matter. Another factor to consider is that I keep reading that the toolbar is broken and, if so, all the analysis might be for naught until/if it gets fixed ;)

[markus007]

I've seen some one page sites have a PR of 7, with 0 backlinks in google.

[Get_em]

PR is King...

You can go to some places like
<snip>
and buy a domain which already has a PR5 or PR6

then you put your content on it... and as soon as it's spidered BAM your given the benefit of the PR...

or get more people to link to your site

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 12:19 am (utc) on June 13, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls please [/edit]

[SlowMove]

Get_em, couldn't help but notice the PR for <snip>

[edited by: Marcia at 5:18 am (utc) on June 13, 2003]
[edit reason] No names - thanks! [/edit]

[Stefan]

Welcome to WW Get_em. You might want to edit out that url before a mod does.

[div01]

buy a domain which already has a PR5 or PR6 then you put your content on it... and as soon as it's spidered BAM your given the benefit of the PR...

Have you been napping for the last 2-3 months? Or have you not noticed Google's expired domain filter?

[Get_em]

If someone re-registers a domain as soon as it expires and places content on it, how will that effect a filter?

Content is content...
It is my understanding that <snip>
purchases the domains as soon as they expire...
Anyway they say that if the PR on the toolbar is not what they claim, you don't buy it. If the PR is a 7 then the
filter would not have had an effect.

I never heard of this filter... please elaborate.

[edited by: Marcia at 5:11 am (utc) on June 13, 2003]
[edit reason] No specific names, please. [/edit]

[div01]

Do a search here on WW for "expired domain filter".

[JoeHouse]

You think you got it bad. I have a new site and right now it shows a PR0. I had several quaified people look at it and they say my site is too new yet (2months) to have a good page rank. Is this true? Also how long does it take to get into DMOZ?

[div01]

Joe,

I have a site in the same boat. It went live in mid-April, Googlebot came around a few times (though it has yet to be fully spidered :( ) and it currently sits witha PR0. With the recent upheaval caused by Dominic, I'll be happy to have the complete site in the index by the end of July.

[JoeHouse]

div01

What really hurts is that googlebot picked up my links in April just like you and in May was supposed to be the month everything was supposed to happen for me.

Now I have my fingers crossed that maybe in June we will see something more positive. However I am not as optimistic as you, if deep crawl is no longer going to be used by google my guess is we will not get in totally until the fall.

[Beachboy]

Elgumbo,

If your competitor's site has the same toolbar PR and only inbound links from the same ODP category your site is listed in, its positioning might well fade with time. I have long suspected new pages initially appear higher than where they are going to finally "stick."

[edited by: Beachboy at 5:35 am (utc) on June 13, 2003]

[Robert Charlton]

Also how long does it take to get into DMOZ?

This is one of those questions that's been asked a thousand times on the forum. Check it out on "site search," or try this search on Google:

how long does it take to get into DMOZ site:webmasterworld.com

Search for both "Open Directory" and "DMOZ"...

I find the best thing to do, while waiting out a DMOZ submission, is to get as many good inbound links as possible. And if I had only two high PR inbound links, I'd be expending a lot of effort to broaden my link base. You don't want to rely on just a couple of links for your rankings.

[elgumbo]

Cheers Beachboy

I hope you are right.

[sudden]

Ahem.. can somebody sticky mail me that "snipped url" where they sell expired domains? Would like to have a look.

Thanks!

[elgumbo]

take a look at whois-search . com for a list of them - Don't want to mention specifics in case I get snipped!!

[Tony_Perry]

check the backward links for that site. Go to the Add url page and add your site too!

[elgumbo]

Tony_Perry,

I wish I could but, apart from their sister site (PR4), the only other sites linking to this one are pulling the results out of the DMOZ page and already list my site.

[Tony_Perry]

elgumbo
Search google as follows: keyword/phrase add url

This return directories relavent to your site. You can add your url to these rathr than wait for them to find you.

[Yidaki]

>Don't want to mention specifics in case I get snipped!

You actually did! >:(
A space-dot-space doesn't make it unspecific. Bad cheating, that, dude!

[jeremymgp]

Hi,

I know of a website very closely related to mine that sells text links on his PR8 front page for $300 a month, and another site with a good PR7 that sells for $75 a month - are these really good deals?

Thanks for answering another dumb question ;)

All the best,

Jeremy

[elgumbo]

>You actually did! >:(
> A space-dot-space doesn't make it unspecific. Bad
> cheating, that, dude!

As unspecific as I could make it :) and it's a pretty good resource (that I found thru this board as well)