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I'm seeing quite a few sites with good PR on all pages except their links page. These pages had PR before, now they are either PR0, or grey ( not indexed ).
It seems it's more consistent at sites that have just one links page with multiple topics on it, sites with multiple links pages (directory style links pages) on topic seem OK.
the consitencies I see are:
Most have link text pointing to them called links
Most are called links.htm or have links in the URL.
Most are 1 page, multi-topic links pages, e.g., there is no targeted theme to the page, anything from greeting cards to health sites all on same page.
Could these be mistaken for FFA's?
I haven't checked fully, but many are listed on "link trading" sites. Maybe peple have created link farms and don't realize it?
I've seen this on many sites. It doesn't seem like a coincidence.
joined:Sept 1, 2000
Wait before taking action ;)
joined:Feb 26, 2003
Agreed. The number one link exchanger in my industry controls the top 5 positions with "++" (css nounderline) links to links pages with "links" in the url. They have one link exchange area from their index page (it is not linked to from anywhere else on their site), and others from other pages. It sat rock solid through the sj, ww2, etc. process. And of course, most of their links come from totally unrelated sites. Their methods have been reported time and time again. Someone here asked me for their URl and the search term, I gave it to them, and then they reported it to Google it is that bad!
Now, if they are still there, with so easily detectable methods. I am sure we are missing the full story at this time. At least I hope so.
Really disappointed. The portal site I gave you made a recovery in the rankings, but my site got toasted again under the Spam, and the Spammers are still there and doing great.
joined:Feb 26, 2003
Please empty your inbox. It is full and no-one can email you.
I'm seeing exactly the same thing with a site that had its first pages go up on the first Monday of March.
It's far too soon to be able to really know anything and probably not too safe to be getting into too much guesswork. I'm just going on as if everything is normal, and not worried a bit.
On one of my sites this has happened plus a couple other pages on the site as well. The only thing I can see is that the pages have next to nothing for content, just a few images and lots of links.
I have another full directory that is now PR0 and the opening index page has very little content but about 80 links to the deeper pages that hold the content.
The actual main page of the site is fine, well it dropped from pr6 to a 5, and so are the content pages that are not below one of the pr0 pages.
This setup looks and works well for the visitors of my site to get around so I hope I don't have to fill up the pages with advertising or other filler junk text just to keep the spiders from thinking these are link farm pages or something, after all they do link to internal pages not out to others.
Any others finding pages with lots of links getting into trouble or is this just my design doing this?
If it works for people then it should work for google as well. Now I will have to put some text that looks like this on any page that has lots of internal links...
"This section intended for Googlebot only to keep this page from getting banned sorry, blah blah blah..."
...but then I might get banned for repeating the word "blah"
But- the majority of indexes (haven't checked in 2 days) have that page ranking #10 for a fairly important keyword.
I should note that this site map would make a good landing page as it contains the initial paragraph from each section of the website.
'tis another wacky aspect of this google roll out.
joined:Mar 29, 2002
I think it's way too early to determine a plan of action. I see no consistency with this issue yet, not enough to determine what to do or if we should be doing anything.
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joined:Apr 13, 2002
As I noted elsewhere, I think it's a case of the toolbar showing actual PR instead of the usual guesstimate.
joined:Apr 13, 2002
All new pages [feb] only are PR0'd (from my perspective).
Yup. That's exactly what I'm referring to when I'm talking about the guesstimate.
Instead of the usual guesstimate of what the flow-thru PR is, it's showing zero or a gray bar- No guesstimate.
For instance, IBM has an "IBM Business Partners" page that is gray barred, but there on the first line it says, "News: PartnerWorld Web site redesigned," which would mean that the toolbar is showing the actual ranking (i.e. gray=not indexed), as opposed to the usual guesstimate.
Of course, if you consider it a little, I may be describing one phenomena and others are experiencing/observing another phenomena.
showing wrong PR.