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Our site has gotten huge over the last four months. We had 200 pages of content with a PR4. Now we have almost 800 pages of good content and still nothing PR4 STILL! What can we do. We added some links to internal pages on our index page. Could this be the problem? Please help! We are sick of seeing PR4 on the toolbar 100 times per day!
Thanks all you experts out there!
Need super helpful advise please!
Steve,
the only advice I can give you is "Remove the Toolbar"
sorry to sound in bad tone, but getting higher PR will NOT help nowhere as much as you think.
Shak
You need to get links from other sites with high PR.
I would strongly recommend reading the Google Knowledge Base on top of the index page of the Google News forum.
Also use the sitesearch and read Brett's post about Success with Google in 12 months.
Good luck!
puhh, don't stress me, please.
>800 pages of good content and still nothing PR4
That sounds pretty good. However, you shouldn't concentrate only on pr. With 800 pr4 pages of real content, you can have more top positions than those who have pr 5 +. As allready said here a million times: low pr pages can easily beat higher pr pages.
As allready said here a million times: low pr pages can easily beat higher pr pages.
IMHO, yes. Relevant pages are pages that are related to a query. PR means popularity of a page in general. Since it's a overall popularity it doesn't automatically say that it's also most relevant for any query for any word of the page. hmmm ... btw, why don't they use popularity of each word / phrase...? Too much computing, or?
Good content, good titles and a good site / linking structure is more important than pr, imho.
>Can anyone elaborate on this?
Mmm, yes. It's called SEO. :)
PR is only one part of a successfull strategy for Google.
The rest is what a large part of this place is about: Content, Keywords, Coding, Links(not as in PR), Logfile analysis, etc etc.
There's lots to be done for making a site a success, explore!
What you should be trying to do is raise the PR of your lowest pages. With a PR2 for your lowest pages you should be able to get those paople that are searching on the thousands of weird phrases that you never would have thought to optimize for.
Remember, it is the traffic that counts, not that little green bar. That bar is a tool, nothing more.
I think the easiest way to think of PR is as a sorting function. The first thing that happens is that the total number of relevant documents is looked at. Within that set of pages, there will always be many pages that are more or less equally relevant.
When that occurs, PR determines the order in which the documents are displayed. If you are working in a space where the vast majority of pages are highly optimized, then PR is everything. But if you are working in a less competitive space, then PR isn't as important because there are far fewer pages that would be considered equally relevant (from an on-page perspective).
Now getting back to the original question. The obvious answer is that adding content doesn't directly improve PR. But there is a chance that you might also be seeing the effects of a PR cap.
At PubCon last month, one of the biggest topics of discussion was whether or not Google imposes PR caps on certain keyword topics/categories. The evidence seems to suggest that they do, so it may be that what you are experiencing is the fact that PR4 is simply the max you can achieve within your space.
So the question becomes what is your PR in relation to your competitors?
I once launched a new site that only had 1 link from a PR3 page and 1 link from a PR7 page.
When the new site emerged in the serps, it was a PR6.
(Added:) So, yes, quality is important.
Also, try getting your link on a few PR 5+ sites.
Do you have good internal linking within ALL your pages?
Over-all, as long as you already have good position in the serps... I woudn't worry too much about PR.
dmoz can take a long time, but two of my websites were indexed in a day.
If you choose the right category that has an editor this is very possible.
You appear to have lousy internal linking. Those extra pages can benefit you a lot, but they need to link to your main page with good link text (not "home page" but "Keyword"). Improve your internal linking, and you should be able to have PR5 all by itself. Get some good external links and a higher PR5 should also be easily within reach. The distance to PR6 is bigger though, unless you get a link from a PR7 page.
PR is like stirring your hand in a sink full of water. The more you stir, the greater cumulative effect it has, and the more powerful turbulence. You need to flow the PR back through your site to increase its turbulence power.
