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PR6 without even trying

         

anxvariety

8:21 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello everyone! I continue to be amazed at this forum. So here goes a post.

I created a site about 8 months ago.. Up until a few months ago I didn't even pay attention to PageRank. After visiting this site I noticed it and started paying attention and it was PR6.. I found out this was actually great, so I tried to take it a step further.

My site is formatted as a huge list of links to dynamic content(database record). I figured hey Google isnt following these so why don't I programmatically create a duplicate of all this content to a form that Google can crawl.. So I made a dir called like so www.mysite.com/mysitestatic/.. Anyways, after google started picking up those pages my traffic shot up to around 800 unique visitors per day up from around 500 BUT my PageRank dropped down to PR4 for my home page and PR3 for all internal pages. :(

So now I've removed that static portion of the site.. Will my PR return to what it was?

Also, my home page was 200k during all this time.. Which seemed to have no effect on PR.. Recently I reduced the page size to around 15k and have removed all outgoing links. Should I add some outgoing links will it boost PR?

Thanks for your opinions,
anx

takagi

8:28 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Two remarks,

1. All the code after 101 kbyte is ignored. No matter if there are links, keywords or what ever.
2. Google will spread some of the incoming PR over the site. So the PR of the homepage will drop if more sub pages are found.

anxvariety

8:30 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok, I did notice that.. When I viewed the cached version of my site on Google it just dropped off into oblivion around the mark you've described.

Thanks!

Reynard

8:33 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Maybe I am missing something here, but are you saying that you value a high PR over a greater number of unique visitors?

I would rather have a PR 1 and 10,000 uniques a day than a PR 10 and 10 uniques per day.

takagi

8:38 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You must decide for yourself what is more important. A higher PR on the homepage, or a very low PR on the sub pages (or maybe not even indexed at all). After you removed the site map, the sub pages will disapear from the index and your PR will return. But the whole internet also changes, so if more links to your site were found it could go to PR7. But if some links were dropped or the PR of the pages with a links to your site got lower, then your homepage might go to a PR5. But it will get higher then the current PR4.

AhmedF

8:49 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You just said your traffic increased 300 uniques - or about 60%

Is that not more important than the PR itself? :/

MetropolisRobot

8:53 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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did not all PR's fall during the *LAST* release anyways? I think many people stated that their PRs dropped by a point or two.

anxvariety

8:54 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Most of that traffic didn't come from Google.

The subject I'm targeting requires that I be very close to the top to get any significant amount of traffic.

That's why I'm thinking I may want to focus on PageRank instead of number of visitors since it may pay off more in the long run when Google considers how to place my site in the results.

anx

WebGuerrilla

12:41 am on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Google will spread some of the incoming PR over the site. So the PR of the homepage will drop if more sub pages are found.

I'm not sure where you got that from. Adding sub pages will cause the PR of the home page to drop?

Google does not "spread incoming PR over the site." PR is calculated on a page-by-page basis. The only thing that contributes to the fluctuation of PR for a given page, is changes in the links that point to that page.

Adding or removing links from your PR6 homepage will have absolutely no effect on the PR of that page. All it will do is impact the amount of PR that will be passed to the pages it links to.

allanp73

1:33 am on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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WebGuerrilla,

I was going to say the same thing. It doen't make sense that incoming pr would be divided throughout a site. If that were the case one page sites would dominate the serps and large sites would be have little pr. This is quite the opposite of what really happens. That is why building large sites is a good way to build pr.