Mid-cycle PageRank update

my PR just change

[lukasz]

My PR just dropped by 1. Has anyone noticed any changes on their pages.
I thought that PR changes only during updates.
Has the algo changed?
<added>Actually the PR shows 3 when I follow link to my page from Overture, however when I go directly to my page the PR shown is 4 (as after last update). Any thoughts on that?</added>

[edited by: lukasz at 10:08 am (utc) on April 30, 2003]

[tigger]

My PR is still the same but PR has been acting a bit odd over the last few weeks don't panic yet

[edit_g]

I doubt it has changed now - did you put www.yourdomain.com or www.yourdomain.com/index.htm? If you put index.htm then the PR will drop by one.

It may also just be a toolbar glitch - leave it for a while and see what happens.

[taxpod]

"If you put index.htm then the PR will drop by one."

IMHO, that is simply conjecture - it is not true.

[ruserious]

>"If you put index.htm then the PR will drop by one."
>IMHO, that is simply conjecture - it is not true.

It is true for 3 of my 3 sites. ;)

I certainly depends on the real PageRank you have (in contrast to the rounded one that is shown on the toolbar).

[edit_g]

IMHO, that is simply conjecture - it is not true.

You got me - I thought this was a hard and fast thing - but I just tried it on Google and it stayed 10...

[daamsie]

I just tried it on Google and it stayed 10

Yeah.. but google is really an 11 they say :)

My experience is that it (index.htm) won't necessarily drop by one, but it is definately a different page and generally has less backlinks, so is likely to drop a point.

[taxpod]

I thought it was fair to presume that the drop one PR meant in circumstances in which "/" calls up index.htm. If you're saying that your home page is index.html and you switched to the address in your browser index.htm, I have no idea. You're talking about something that is pretty much irrelevant.

Said differently, if your home page is "domainname/index.html" and you have a PR6 on "domainname/" your PR should not drop by 1 if you switch the address from "domainname/" to "domainname/index.html" If your home page is "domainname/index.html" and you also have an "index.htm" in the home directory, so you change the address to "domainname/index.htm" I don't really understand why you would have the index.htm file or why you should care.

Is this just mental gymnastics? A pleasant pass-time while you wait for the update?

What is it I am not understanding here?

[ruserious]

As far as Googl or any Browser is concerned those are all different URLs.

domain.com/
domain.com/index
domain.com/index.htm
domain.com/index.html

It _could_ be that the webserver is configured to return the same page, but that is not a must. It is a different URL which means it could have a different content. The Client (Browser/Bot) does not know what happens serverside, he can only guess. And just because a lot of servers a similar default-configuration doesn't mean it has to hold true.

Some people say, that google indeed "guesses" that two pages are the same. I cannot confirm this from my experience. I know that for index.php it does not hold true. And I don't believe it goes after filenames...

[ogletree]

Another good test is to type in domain.com/index.htm see what you PR is then type in domain.com//index.htm and then domain.com///index.htm and so on. It will go down each time. If there is not a real PR that is higher than the guessed PR then it always follows this rule.

domain.com highest PR
domain.com + 1 thing to right PR-1
domain.com + 2 things to right PR-2

When I say thing I mean that domain.com/index.htm whould have the same as domain.com/subtopic/ but domain.com/subtopic/index.htm whould be one PR less.

IF you have a lot of links to some page deep in your site then it has it's own PR. As far as I can tell it only counts directories and pages not arguments.

I have no idea if the guessed rank is passed or the home page is passed.