Page linking to itself...

Probably been asked a million times

[futureX]

Can a page vote PR to itself?

[Oaf357]

I don't have an honest yes or no answer for that one.

But, I do know that it doesn't seem to hurt.

[Powdork]

I always include a full http:// link to my home page on my homepage. I was checking backlinks of a competitor one day and noticed that his site was the only one that received credit for the link from someone I was looking for a link from. It turns out the site wasn't linking to you but framing your site within their frameset. The full link on his homepage was why he was receiving credit for the link and the other folks on the site weren't receiving any.

[mrguy]

Powdork:

Are you saying that by including a link with a full path to itself, the page will actually get a vote for itself.

I'm not disputing it, I've just never heard or even thought of that.

[Oaf357]

I wouldn't call it a vote. Hell, it might be just a flaw in the PR algo but it DOESN'T HURT (hint, hint... wink, wink).

[SEO practioner]

hummmm....

[futureX]

Anyone else with any ideas on the subject, i'm sure that google has something in place there to stop a page voting for itself, if not tho... :D

I always buil my designs so each page does link to itself :)

[madweb]

I think this needs clarification:

• Site A links to site B
  
• Site B appears in the framset of site A
  
• Google's framset interpreter sees page of Site B as being part of site A
  
• The page of site B includes a full href= to itself, with a target="_top" or target="_blank"
  
• The page appearing in the framset (i.e. page from B 'within' site A) now "votes" for site B

[John_Caius]

Erm...

Which Google frameset interpreter would that be? Google only reads noframes content AFAIK.

[RonPK]

John_Caius,
Google does follow 'frame links', like <frame src=...>
I wouldn't call that a frameset interpreter, though.

[Powdork]

<a href="/global/siteframe.asp?returnurl=links.htm&amp;mainurl=http://www.domainname.com">Anchor Text</a>

That is the code used to call up my site within the frame of the site 'linking' to me. At first, I thought Google was pulling url's and giving credit for the link just from that code. However, the only pages which receive credit from this page (with about 50 offsite links) are those that have a full http link on their framed page.

[plasma]

As most other sites, I have a logo on each page linking to the homepage, too. But I use / as href.
Would it give more PR with http:// links?
Has anybody ever be penalized by that?

[madweb]

I don't know if it has any effect on PR or not, but I doubt it.

However there are other advantages of putting the full HTTP ref in - for example, if somone saves your page to hard disk and later wants to revisit your site its easier for them to click on the full http ref logo than to spend time wondering what the URL was.