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What about other search engines? Do they also penalise Webposition Gold users?
I am a new comer and came across this site by chance. I hope Iíll be able to contribute to the discussions too.
Sorry if the answer is already on the site, but I couldn't find it. If that's the case, my apologies.
joined:Sept 20, 2000
Google states that they don't like WPG and every so often the will take action to block access from those who pummel their servers with rank reports. Use it sparingly and you should be ok.
As far as the other WPG features, haven't used em in ages so can't comment much on those. Remember it is a tool that can help in the learning process. I wouldn't use any page on my site that was autogenerated by WPG if it still does that but you may find the suggestions it give for improving pages helpful.
Actually I've not used webposition, but I know the basic features of that software.
Google don't like webposition because of two reasons.
1. Webposition checks your website's position in Google automatically, and it can do so very aggressively (download lots of pages in a short time). This violates Google's terms and conditions. If you use a proxy router you're still violating the terms.
2. You can create doorway pages with webposition, which will be like a page full of text generated by a computer. Such text is useless for Google's users and those pages will get low ranking in Google.
Even more important, it is *rude*. Google sends your site all sorts of free traffic, and you start slamming their servers with software that they ask you not to use.
If you use a proxy or a router with NAT to hide your IP, you could end up getting the address of that router banned from doing searches on google. That doesn't sound like a very nice thing to do to the owner of that router and all the other users.
In other words, just don't do it.
Set your preferences to 100 results per page and use [google.com...] to check your results. And if that is still too much work for you, hire a high school kid and have them do it for you.
I'm not trying to be clever, just trying to learn and filter out the bad advices I've been receiving.
I certainly don't want to abuse google, just want to optimise and check my results efficiently. As I said, Iím new and I didnít know about things like [google.com...] How do I set my preferences?
Thank you all again and any more tips and advice for a novice like me would be appreciated.
Google states very clearly in their TOS that they do not want, and will take action against, a bunch of bots coming in to check and collect ranking information.
The representative from WG, who was kind enough to respond to my inquiry, stated (in much flower marketing embedded rhetoric) that WG has taken steps to address this by simulating a regular browser, as close as possible, when querying Google's index...the problem still..is that it is an automated query...and this is what Google doesn't want... 10s of thousands of individuals chewing up their bandwidth multiple times a day...you know what I mean...that old obsessive-compulsive behaivour that is so easily played out here online as any of us humans sit here and work away...we want answers...
Regarding machine-generated pages based on the latest release of WG (which is unlikely to keep pace with algo changes)...personally, I wouldn't touch this...
Better to deploy the good old human touch...called your brain...and get to work...
"Thanks Webposition Gold, you're the best."
I think I am going to send a copy to all my competitors for Christmas. :)
What if my competitors use my domain name on Webposition Gold for frequent ranking report and over-submission, etc... Will this mean that my domain name will be penalised and dropped by Google? Or do they somehow protect my domain against such actions?
can anyone confirm what Kurupt is saying?
WPG will obviously try everything they can to get around Google's TOS. They'll probably get caught out again eventually. My personal opinion - it is very difficult for Google to do anything about automated queries. You'd have to be doing it on a massive scale for them to take notice and even then what can they really do about it? The decision for me is more to do with wanting to stick by the TOS. The advantage of using programs like WPG is negligable, but if you really want to use it then go ahead.
But then your better off saving the $349 and doing it manually! :) Thats what I realized. The other features (besides rank checking reporting) are garbage and I wouldnt touch them with a 10 foot poll...