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3rd level domains

do they affect rankings??

         

Bates

11:41 am on Nov 29, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Want to know if third level domain names affect rankings..

Any one had experience with this?

drbill

1:28 pm on Nov 29, 2000 (gmt 0)

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I have not found any difference. all the same. INK used to give you an edge for a 3rd level but nothing that I am aware of any more.

Bates

9:49 am on Nov 30, 2000 (gmt 0)

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some people think that using 3rd level may count against you...

But if this isnt hte case, then it'd be cheaper to use 3rd level domains in certain cases. .

must admit ... havent seen (not that i can recall) top ranking sites with a 3rd level domain.

tedster

10:06 am on Nov 30, 2000 (gmt 0)

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I think third level domains can help keep the theme of each domain discrete -- so the content of one doesn't contaminate the other.

One example: about.com has lots of high rankings for third level domains. And the links between them seem to help on Google.

pete

2:01 pm on Nov 30, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Let me get this straight:

1) you can register one domain.

2) set up seperated third levels, each with their own themes.

3) Each third level will be treated exactly the same as first levels, no penalties and have the same chance of succeeding in a competative industry.

is this correct?

rcjordan

3:23 pm on Nov 30, 2000 (gmt 0)

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>is this correct?

Yep, that's what I bank on, anyway. I have 50 or more 3rd-levels in one site and submit them to get deeper spidering.

bartek

7:11 pm on Oct 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I wanted to revisit this thread now that some time has passed and get another opinion of the original posters... What is the weather like now? Will it "contaminate" the site like tedster mentioned above? How did it turn out for you, rc? Anyone else with 3rd level domains experience?

toolman

7:56 pm on Oct 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I've seen very positive results using these. I have some top ranking sites in Google that are subs. Ink seems to like them as well. Don't do it unless you have stuff to put in there...content, because it really isn't a secret weapon.

mivox

8:01 pm on Oct 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I think there are two different uses for 3rd level domains... if you're using them as "subdivisions" of one site (store.site.com, info.site.com, etc.), they can be part of a very effective promotion strategy (use the site search link at the top of the page, and search for "canonicals" for more info on that... :) )

If you're using 3rd level domains to save money on domain names (site1.domain.com, site2.domain.com), and are hosting unrelated sites on each 3rd level/subdomain, I'd think they'd probably be neutral as far as your rankings are concerned...

WebGuerrilla

8:30 pm on Oct 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I would basically agree with Mivox. We still use them when appropriate, and they are still performing well.

Another positive benefit is the increase in brand exposure. A good example is Hotbot/Lycos. When Lycos purchased Hotbot, they could have kept the domain name the same. But having hotbot.com resolve to hotbot.lycos.com does a better job of brand building for Lycos. The address makes it far more clear that Hotbot is part of the Lycos network.

If you use them, you do need to be careful and not get carried away. SE's do seem to track and monitor potential dns spam.

paynt

8:40 pm on Oct 23, 2001 (gmt 0)



If you know me at all you know I’m going to jump in to this one.

I use canonicals all of the time in structuring my sites. As RC suggested previously about.com is the king of this method and to really learn how to do it right, check out what they have going over there.

You are right in suggesting that it saves money. Especially if you find a good host with a c-panel 3 that you can set the canonicals up yourself. I am always on the lookout for those, especially the ones who do not charge for using them or limit how many you can create. [:)Please sticky me if you know of one].

When I map out the site originally I take a lot of my time determining the direction I’m moving in and how to break these canonicals up so they make the most sense and will work the best for me. Unlike a book with separate chapters I think of using canonicals like a series of books, connected by their ongoing theme. If you do it right you should be able to set them up independent yet connected. The independence allows you the opportunity to strongly market them in directories or to gain link partnerships. The connectedness unifies them so that as whole the product is stronger.

I have no experience with any adverse effects of using canonicals, as long as the content is there. I agree with mivox that to simply save money would lend you no benefit but if it’s purpose is to create a stronger product then I’ve seen tremendous benefits.