Hosting my *example.co.uk* "dynamic ip"

domain name help

[jewelzone]

Hi, not sure if anyone can help me with this but here goes.i have just purchased two *example.co.uk* domains from 2 different companies and want to host/serve the domains myself on one of my pc's. i connect through a uk adsl provider whom do not offer static ip adressing. have set up apache to run as localhost i can view example.co.uk but not www.example.co.uk. one of the registrants allows me to change the dns servers from:
ns1.anameserver.com 123.67.202.2
ns2.anameserver.com 123.67.203.246

all i can see under A and CNAME records is as below

NAME TYPE CONTENT
www A 212.67.202.241
ftp CNAME example.co.uk

a third party "domaincompany.com" tells me to point above servers to
ns1.anotherns.com
ns2.anotherns.com
but the host still points to their parking lot ie
domain2.com
can anyone help there is alot more info to go but i dont want to scare you all off straight away lol,
thanks in advance
jewelz

[edited by: Lisa at 9:58 am (utc) on Dec. 16, 2002]
[edit reason] no specific URLs please [/edit]

[Lisa]

This sounds like a fun problem, please give us all the details as crystal clear as you can. Please be generic, no specific URLs please. The more I know the more I can help.

When you said you bought two domains.
Did you mean www.example.co.uk and example.co.uk? Or did you actually have two domains. Like example1.co.uk and example2.co.uk?

[jewelzone]

Hi lisa i meant "example1.co.uk" and example2.co.uk ,1 of them has been redirected to point to an exsisting site owned bt my isp. the other is the one im having probs with.i can reach it via http ://localhost or by http:example.co.uk but not by http:www.example.co.uk have changed cnames with 3rd party so that www.points to example.co.uk. but its not appearing in my browser
jewelz

[Lisa]

Well localhost has nothing to do with your DNS servers.
The next one example2.co.uk may also be a locally resolving.
So your name server may not be working like you think it is.

First I would check to see if your name servers are actually resolving the domain. Then I would check to see what IP they are giving out. Don't check this information on your computer, look for a site that can do this for you. There are a ton of them out there. It is important not to try and solve a problem from a node that is attached to the problem. This may confuse your view.

[caine]

Another possiblity is that you are saving below the docs level when your FTP to your server. This can put you below www.

[jewelzone]

<snipped whois record>

ummm now what? not sure what im looking for, sorry to be such a pain
i checked www.mydomain.co.uk with an ip lookup and it came back with the address that is currently showing as my ip .
i can type http mydomain.co.uk and get my page but not when typing www.mydomain.co.uk
also i used the cname and can reach www1.mydomain.co.uk and with www3.mydomain.co.uk just not with www.mydomain.co.uk
does this make sense to anyone?

[edited by: Lisa at 1:14 am (utc) on Dec. 17, 2002]
[edit reason] Whois record not needed [/edit]

[Lisa]

ok, now we are getting somewhere.

example1.co.uk = reachable
www.example1.co.uk = NOT reachable
www1.example1.co.uk = reachable
www2.example1.co.uk = reachable

So www.example1.co.uk resolves to the right IP... Well DNS is not the issue. Now we know the problem is with your server. I would suggest reading your apache conf really carefully. Do a configtest on it. (I assume you are using Apache or is it IIS?)

[jewelzone]

ok, this may have something to do with it my reg provider has just sent me an email asking me to provide the static ip no so they can point it to my domain, ......i dont have a static, i did tell them this .i tried to run the config test but a c/p window came up and went before i could blink. im using apache on a winxp os. am new to apache have installed php mysql should i give up and use iis? i know it may be taking the cowards way out but im finding it hard to see any light at end of tunnel, i have no idea where/how to put mx records in httpd.conf. my actual machine ip is the usual 192.168.bla.bla so i cant use that can i? sorry im mummmbling on need some coffee :-)

[Lisa]

On XP I would use IIS. But it sounds like hosting on your connection will not be possible. A static is really needed unless this is just your personal homepage. I think you already know but incase you don't 192.168.x.x is not routable on the net. That is a local IP per the RFCs.