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Finding Expired Domains?

Best place to find expired domain names in google and ODP..

         

cablefusion

6:48 am on Nov 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello, I've been surfing the net looking for the best resource to find expired domains already listed in Google and ODP. I have see scripts and software offering this. Any references on what service to use? Any suggetions or recommendations will be appreciated. Thank you!

Shaan Yuhas

Lisa

8:53 am on Nov 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Personally I would not bother with doing all this searching for pre-existing domains. It is much easier to design a site and get it listed after the site is built. Shortcuts like this don't really gain people that much in the long run.

ukgimp

9:00 am on Nov 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello CF

Wlcome to WebmasterWorld

The main problem with your approach is that listings can come and go, especially with the swiftness of the likes of Google.

If you plan to launch a similar site to the expired one you could gain some mileage. But if you are just after links, ones that would soon become off topic then why not just get your own ODP listing and generate a few links to get listed. It is always possible that a competitor who knows that a site has changed could contact the likes of the ODP.

It is aslo possible that you could inherit a dodgy domain that has had a shady past.

A lot less risky to do it from scratch, I am afraid that there are not many get ranked quick schemes out there.

Good luck and cheers

GoogleGuy

10:54 am on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yah, I would definitely steer away from expired domains.

Nick_W

11:02 am on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Good advice there. However, sometimes expired domains are just too temptimg. I picked up a great one last night ;)

Try www.deleteddomains.com/

Nick

Woz

11:42 am on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> Yah, I would definitely steer away from expired domains.
> Good advice there.

I would disagree.

It is being suggested that people should shy away from expired domains because there may be some penalty applied to that domain. But it is more likely that there is not a penalty applied simply because there are so many deleted domains available. I can't see that a penalty has been applied to all of them. Just because a domain has expired does not mean it is bad. It is like saying that all Used Car Salespeople are %#$&^ , or all SEOers are!&@^# Bad generalizations.

In addition, should not any ban or penalty that any search engine associates with any domain be lifted when said domain either expires or at a reasonable amount of time (say a month or two) after expiration?

It is simply not acceptable to penalise new domain owners for a previous owner's trangressions.

Onya
Woz

PS., Apologies to all Used Care SalesPeople who are not %#$&^

Nick_W

12:13 pm on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It is simply not acceptable to penalise new domain owners for a previous owner's trangressions.

Agree wholeheartedly! -- But I think that it is safer to pick an brand new domain name. Although you are of course right Woz about not all deleted domains having penalties, there is always the chance that the one you choose may have.

So, if I were picking a domain name for an important site for my business or whatever I would definately stick to clean ones.

Nick

SEOPTI

6:06 pm on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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People look for expired domains because dmoz needs 6 months - 1 year to list a site. Dmoz is the only place to get high PR for Google, but they are ultra slow.

Yahoo only accepts paid submissions into their low PR categories.

So expired domains or paying someone to place a link on his high PR site are the only two ways I know to make *fast* cash in competitive areas.

buckworks

8:33 pm on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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<<It is always possible that a competitor who knows that a site has changed could contact the likes of the ODP. >>

A friend of mine is doing exactly that after she discovered that someone copied a mini-site of hers almost word for word. She is mad enough to not just contact ODP and Yahoo, but to track down dozens of smaller sites that think they are linking to a church site but aren't any more!

Lisa

11:03 pm on Nov 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Expired domains are not bad just because they are expired, What is bad is finding a DMOZ listed cat site and using it for something completely different like fuel pumps. There are 13+ Million domains deleted so far. To not be able to register one just because they are old doesn't make sense. I don't think it is risky finding one and using it. Sites like GoDaddy and Whois Source are now listing those historic domains so users can see what domains have been previously registered.

BUT, if you purposely look for one of these DMOZ domains for cheating your PR. Plain and simple that is a very doggy practice.

dmoz needs 6 months

Not so, Well constructed informational sites and the right category and you can get listed in a few days. It just takes 30-60 days for the Google update to find your site and your PR will be up and running.