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8:32 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Eight of the world's largest domain registrars have sent an open letter to ICANN Chairman of the Board Vint Cerf, stating their formal opposition to the revised proposition with VeriSign for continued control of the Internet registry.

The eight signatories, which lay claim to 25 million domain names, or 57 percent of those currently registered, are GoDaddy, Network Solutions, Tucows, Register.com, BulkRegister, Schlund + Partner AG, Melbourne IT and Intercosmos Media Group.

In the letter, the group opposed two key items in the revised deal: Pricing and management rights.

Under the proposed new terms, VeriSign may raise wholesale costs for .com domains in four of the next 6 years.

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It's things like these that give registrars a common ground to go against the "master". :D
11:37 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The problem with any government controlled monopoly, is that they can cook the books to justify whatever pricing scheme they think they can get away with.

I'm guessing I'm not the only person here who comes out of the pre-breakup Telcos, and can remember what kind of bloated, inefficient, technology stiffling machines they were at their height.

Allowing one company to hold a monopoly over a key information exchange sector is never, ever, a healthy thing.

Sure, I miss my fat, padded salary, ridiculously posh benefits package, and complete lack of performance pressure.

Or at least I used to. For about half a year I missed it. Then I realised how much more fun it was to be out in a dynamic industry, with these strange new concepts like "innovation". (At least, it was a strange concept to me when the Telcos broke up in Canada, 10, 12 years ago? Gawd, it seems like it was around the last Ice Age when we still had Telco monopolies.)

Allowing one company to control the dot-com registry will lead to systematic cost increases, technological apathy, a general rotting of the core of the internet apple.

IMHO

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I have always felt that domain names are like baseball cards, worth little to nothing if brand new and after that worth only what someone will pay for them.
6:33 pm on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Imagine the cash that floods into their coffers when everyone updates their domains for an extra 10 years before the new pricing goes into effect :P
11:34 pm on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dummy me. I thought Verisign and Network Solutions were the same company. How could NetSol be on the list of registrars fighting Verisign?

Was there a split of these two companies or did I just "imagine" the connection?

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Dummy me. I thought Verisign and Network Solutions were the same company.

Network Solutions was the first commercial entity to have the monopoly for domain registration. They were the sole bidder to run the domain name system when the National Science Foundation, which previously controlled domain registration, put the task out to bid in 1992. This was before the registrar/registry system.

San Diego-based SAIC, a private, employee-owned company (primarily a defense contractor, who also runs "research" nuclear reactors, and whose employees seem to like taking pictures of Iraqi prisoners in curious poses...) bought Network Solutions in 1995.

In 1999, the system was opened to competition, and the registrar/registry system was created.

SAIC sold Network Solutions to Verisign in 2000 for $21B in stock. Yes, $21B.

In 2003, Network Solutions was spun-off from Verisign as a private company.

(With help for my feeble memory from Google and Wikipedia...)

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Ah, so I did remember correctly. There's something else perhaps you can help me with.

I can't remember which company I hated first or why. Verisign or Network Solutions. Since VS owned NS I started hating both whenever I saw they offered something.

Now that NS and VS are separate companies, I need to know, which is the evil one again?

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Now that NS and VS are separate companies, I need to know, which is the evil one again?

Well, Network Solutions is a registrar.

Verisign is the registry for .com and .net.

If you are a registrar, you hate Verisign, and maybe Network Solutions.

If you are an end-user, you hate Network Solutions, and maybe Verisign. :)

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Last November I asked to Bob Parsons to comment on the ICANN-Verisign_Settlement. His answer <was that he planned to express his company's concerns at the upcomming ICANN meeting>.

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Now that NS and VS are separate companies, I need to know, which is the evil one again?

They're both evil, anyway. Only Verisign's got more umph. :D

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Now that NS and VS are separate companies, I need to know, which is the evil one again?

- NS overcharges for domain name registrations
- VS overcharges for SSL certificates
Does that help? :)
2:53 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OK, I think I got it now :)
11:31 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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However teh truth is that Verisign decision has been deleyed once again on the last ICANN meeting,for now things will remain as they are
 

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