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Can domain parking traffic originate from China? Can they "see" the domains?

What is the scope - or limit - of web access for citizens of mainland China?

         

hermes

6:58 pm on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The big domain parking players (eg.Sedo) seem to be blocked in China - has anyone any ways around this? I dont want to lose my chinese domain parking traffic.

[edited by: Webwork at 7:09 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2006]
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Webwork

7:16 pm on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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seem to be blocked in China

What's the basis of the statement or the proof that such domains are "blocked in China"?

Have you spent time in China recently and attempted to access your domains?

Across what parking companies?

What is the scope of the access problem? Domains + what? I trust China is blocking a lot more than access to Sedo, but I don't actually know since I haven't attempted to surf the web whilst within China.

What proof do you have that there is any mainland Chinese traffic for your domains and, likely, advertisers seeking to reach the Chinese websurfers?

I would only invision the existence of advertisers seeking to reach a mainland China audience IF that advertiser was doing business within China. If that's the case then I imagine such advertisers would have more efficient/effective channels for getting their message "in" to the country.

Please . . I welcome some further insight into the reality of the issue. My statements are just conjecture.

hermes

7:39 pm on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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my domains are very china-centric - hence chinese traffic. Done some access tests from china - cant get them from china.

jtara

7:53 pm on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Maybe Chinese officials have turned China into a giant No Parking zone.

OK - serious answer - is there anything about your sites that might be found objectionable by China? If not, is there some sort of appeals process?

Getting back to the first answer - perhaps that is it. A parking site is too open-ended. Since mostly ads appear, anything might pop-up. I think they'd feel more comfortable with a real site that has substantial content, so that they can judge whether the content is suitable.

Going along on this theme - are there sites where they block the ads but permit the content? I think the issue might be that a site's content will remain relatively stable, at least in terms of attitude or tone, where with advertising there is no predictability.

Woz

9:04 pm on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is commonly called the Great Firewall of China. Short answer is that all net traffic in China, and I mean ALL, is funnelled through a central set of routers owned and controlled by the Government. Hence specific Sites, IP ranges, even whole Countries could be blocked at any time and often are.

I first ran into this in 2000 whilst living there and found I could not access certain sites in America. At the time no-one could figure out why, in hindsight aI now realise what was going on.

More recently there have been several instances of major sites being blocked from Chinese users, such as Google, currently Wikipedia, and so on.

It would appear that SEDO is also on the block list. It could possibly be accessed through a proxy, but that would require a savy user to implement, which means that for all intents and purposes SEDO is a no-go zone.

There are several threads in the Asia Pacific Forum [webmasterworld.com] covering this, a quick search and read should fill in any blanks.

Onya
Woz

Martin40

10:38 pm on Feb 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You may wonder how a site like Sedo could become non-grata anywhere, but a while ago Sedo did feature domains like (Country)sucks.com, so political issues do surface on Sedo.

Hermes, I'm a newbie at Chinese domains, but I assume your domain has Chinese characters?

[edited by: Webwork at 1:54 am (utc) on Feb. 9, 2006]
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