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5:08 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Trademark holders and government bodies can start claiming their European identities on the Internet from 10 a.m. British time on Wednesday, when the registers open for the new ".eu" domain name aimed at boosting European e-commerce.

Trademark Holders: Start Claiming Your .eu Domains [today.reuters.co.uk]

5:12 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Where do we go to do this? The article doesn't mention a website address!
5:19 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Too bad...by the time the 'regular' people can step in the good names have all been sold.
5:24 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The official site is [eurid.eu...]
It's a non-profit organisation, incorporated under Belgian law, appointed by the EU Commission to run the .EU domain.

[edited by: engine at 5:25 pm (utc) on Dec. 7, 2005]

5:24 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"To register a .eu domain names you must be one of the following:

Undertakings having their registered office, central administration or principal place of business within the European Community;
Organizations established within the European Community without prejudice to the application of national law;
Natural person's resident within the European Community.
At the launch of .eu, there will be a sunrise period of 4 months during which only public bodies and those with recognized rights to a name (such as trademark holders) may register. "

Seems like by the time it will get to us we will get the left overs

5:34 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have registered 6 domains they have been put in the queue for me - chances i will get any what do you think guys?
6:41 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[europeregistry.com...]
This is another site selling .eu

Is it really that important to pick up these domain names? Every country now has an extension.

8:40 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is it really that important to pick up these domain names?

Maybe you're a European company that wants to give the impression that you operate on a Europe-wide basis, or you're a German company that's selling in Poland. You might not use your .de website to appeal to the Polish market for whatever reason.

Up until now companies in Northern Ireland were forced to choose between having a .co.uk or a .ie website to stick on their business cards. This is a sensitive issue and could result in loss you business if someone infers your political affiliations from your website's url!

Europe has a colourful political history and the .EU domain is another (albeit virtual) border that's been broken down.

9:23 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I hope I'm not understanding this correctly...

No matter how big or popular in Europe an American website is, unless the website has business operations in the EU, it cannot register its trademark as .eu?

For instance webmaterworld doesn't have an EU office that I know of. As a result, Brett can't register webmasterworld.eu. Then, after the sunrise period, any (European?) pornmaster can register it?

This doesn't seem right.

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For instance webmaterworld doesn't have an EU office that I know of. As a result, Brett can't register webmasterworld.eu. Then, after the sunrise period, any (European?) pornmaster can register it?

This doesn't seem right.

There is a provision in the regulations where a fraudulent, abusive or speculative registration can be challenged. A lot of the squatters are going to get hammered on this one. Hell, it might even become a sport. :)

Regards...jmcc

9:58 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you want to see who's hard at work in round 3 of the spam sham claims to all the generic domain names game (.info=1, .biz=2) you can look it up! [whois.eu]

Yo! Brett! Might you might want to stake WebmasterWorld's claim to all of EUrope, before someone else does?

10:06 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got mine :)
10:13 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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To register a .eu domain names you must be one of the following:

Undertakings having their registered office, central administration or principal place of business within the European Community;
Organizations established within the European Community without prejudice to the application of national law;
Natural person's resident within the European Community.
At the launch of .eu, there will be a sunrise period of 4 months during which only public bodies and those with recognized rights to a name (such as trademark holders) may register.

So does that mean that trademark holders in the US without a European office cannot claim their .eu domain (as the thread title suggests?)

Do we have to wait for someone to register our trademark and then challenge it?

10:57 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So does that mean that trademark holders in the US without a European office cannot claim their .eu domain (as the thread title suggests?)

Do we have to wait for someone to register our trademark and then challenge it?

Why not ask them? :)

11:32 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So does that mean that trademark holders in the US without a European office cannot claim their .eu domain (as the thread title suggests?)
Yep. It looks that way. Unless you have a substantive connection with the EU, it seems that a US trademark is no use in acquiring a .eu in the sunrise phase. However if someone has registered your trademark abusively, there may be grounds for objecting to the registration.

Regards...jmcc

12:05 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sunrise 2 (EU Companies or Residents): 7 February 2006

Residents can get a .eu domain on the 7th of February.

Im going for no-more-domains-left-help-me-please.eu

:)

1:56 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On this note, what domain name would you register if you could travel back to internet hayday, trademarks and such excluded?

"Is it really that important to pick up these domain names?"

Yes, they keep coming. I believe .com will endure as a classic.

2:24 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just went and checked on a few of the really desirable ones and they are all gone.

I mean, which Euro organisation has decided to buy sex.eu? What a swiz.

3:30 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The whole procedure is probably the most ridiculous party ever. The usual domain grabbers with "official" trademark certificate are pretty busy these days ;-)

Here the top claims since yesterday:
1) sex.eu (213)
2) hotel.eu (112)
3) travel.eu (90)
4) jobs.eu (89)
5) hotels.eu (86)
6) casino.eu (76)
7) poker.eu (72)
8) golf.eu (67)
9) business.eu (66)
10) music.eu (64)
11) porn.eu (63)
12) shopping.eu (63)

3:44 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On this note, what domain name would you register if you could travel back to internet hayday, trademarks and such excluded?

I don't have to wonder. I've paid for too many vacations for the the darn squaters who got them first.
4:52 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yes, I agree with you there. A lot of cybersquatters are going to losy money and time on this one.
8:46 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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does that means that trademark holders in Europe (but outside European union) can register domain in this period?!
12:05 pm on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As stated many times ..it is extremely easy to get an European official business address for under $200.00 US and thereby be eligible to register your trade mark as a dot eu
1:53 pm on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the procedure isn't in place to force an auction where there are multiple competing claims for the same "generic domain" the domain assignement rules ought to be amended and implemented NOW to avoid either a manifest injustice or gaming of the system or other immediate loss of credibility for the entire domain "trademark recognition" procedure.

Of course, for this to happen (if it's not already in place) the .EU governing body would have to act swiftly and decisively.

Anyone see any evidence of that?

Looks to me that the .EU registry is off to an inglorious start if all the generic domain/word claims - many brought by the same few firms - are allowed to stand.

No "sunrise surpise" as history repeats itself.

8:18 am on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know how Eurid will handle duplicate .eu application conflicts? Someone mentioned to me that it would be decided on a first come, first served basis in the sunrise period. My domain supplier on the other hand was sure conflicts will be resolved based on trademark ownership. The latter sounds plausible, but trademarks are a fickle matter and such as in my case, duplicate trademarks can exist.
11:09 pm on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Like the .info farce all over again..
11:39 pm on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think anyone really expects .eu to take off, it's just a concession to the poor people at the EU.

For those who live far from the EU, it is still a widely held belief that the European Union is just a club that countries join to play with trade, border controls, and finance. This differs somewhat from the organisation itself which thinks that it is now a top level of government providing an overarching unifying force for the united states of europe, and that citizens of member countries are 'european union citizens'.

 

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