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How much money UltSearch makes

Some calculations, based on public info

         

Tom_Dalton

5:18 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Remember the UltSearch (or Name Development) purchase? I need some help understanding their situation a little better.

Here are some calculations, based on numbers from various press releases:

They have 100,000 domains in their portfolio, and they get 17 million unique visitors each month.

That makes (17m/100k) 170 unique visitors per domain, per month.

Their stated revenue is $19 million per year. (Various numbers thrown about, ranging from 17 to 19.)

Averaging that out, they make about $190 per yer, per domain. That's $15.83 per month, per domain.

So...

170 visitors, $15.83. At a CTR of 5%, they must make about $1.86 per click.

If their CTR were average, at 2%, they'd have to make $4.65 per click.

What do you guys think? You've seen their sites. I have a hard time imagining a really great CTR for them. But the earnings per click don't seem realistic at $4. The sites are automated (right?), so there's no super-targetted affiliate programs going on. What's going on? Any thoughts?

Webwork

5:43 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Factor this in: The CTR for direct navigation tends to be much higher than 2-5%, especially if the lander pages are well designed. The CTR can range from 25% to 50% and higher. A lot depends on how well designed and "search domain optimized" the page is. That, plus how good is the inventory of "search word domain" ads?

How do you get to 25% CTR?

People who employ direct navigation are often very focused on "getting there". SE's tend to offer near hits, plus a lot of SEO filler and the SERPSpam flavor of the month.

An intelligengly crafted direct navigation page will tend to have tightly focused results. IF the type-in URL is ElboniaWidgetManufacturer.com chances are pretty good that the landing page will yield that result.

There's a trend in the PPC landing page industry away from the junk generic type landing pages of the past and towards highly optimized landing pages, with URL or "domain word" specific links. No more pages filled with generic links. They're still around, but they're slowly moving towards extinction.

How do I know that the CTR's run 25% and ^? Experience. I've got some very long domains that get 50%+ CTRs. The more specific the domain the more likely the direct navigation surfer is looking "exactly for that" (keyword domain) and the better the ad inventory that fits that keyword string . . . well, the CTR is not magic. It's common sense.

econman

5:48 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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From what I've read, the CTR is often very high -- it can easily average 50%, because the page is filled with relevant links, and a lot of people find something interesting that they click on.

Think of it this way, someone searching in Google is given 10-12 ppc choices plus 10 "natural" choices. If 80% of the searchers click on one of the choices, rather than trying a new search, the CTR for the average link will be something like 4%. However, Google's overall CTR will be 80%. The latter figure is analogous to the 50% that can be achieved with a well optimized ppc site.

inbound

6:21 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Webwork is spot on.

We run some VERY specific results pages and have seen earnings as high as $194 per thousand visitors. That's twice the UltSearch average so I see no reason why they can't be earning those figures.

Tom_Dalton

6:25 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



My eyes have been opened. :o)

However, as several of you have commented that much of this derives from the specific targetting of the site -- how would UltSearch have targetted 100,000 domains? It seems feasible for 1,000, maybe, but 100,000? Seems to me, they would have to be less targetted than the sites you're talking about.

(But then, maybe my eyes are about to be opened again!)

ps > That's why I love this place -- so many smart people with perspectives different than my own. Tremendously valuable! Thanks, all.

inbound

6:42 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Having 100000 is probably over the top but the less traffic a domain gets, the more targeted the results can be. Imagine these two domains:

Widgets.com

SmallBlueWidgets.com

Which gets the most type ins?

Which is more targeted?

They probably find their more generic domains (apart from a few) get less earnings per visitor than the more specific ones, although the generics will get far more traffic.

Think about how close people are to a purchase when they use one of the terms below in a search:

Jacket

Mens XL Waterproof Berghaus Ski Jacket

Advertisers are aware that the second searcher is about to buy, the first has no idea what he wants.

Generic is bad on an earnings per visitor level, it more than makes up for it by volume though.

Edwin

8:25 pm on Sep 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Automation - for instance, run a dictionary file against the domain name to split it into keywords, then optimize based on those. That's just the tip of the iceberg, since many of the parking programs have very sophisticated back-ends taking care of the optimization side of things.