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At any rate, I am tracking a domain name that contains the following information:
Record last updated on 07-Jul-2000.
Record expires on 27-May-2000.
Record created on 24-May-1996.
Database last updated on 9-Jul-2000 20:34:35 EDT.
Well, I was wondering why the domain name was not available for purchase. I decided to call Network Solutions and they told me that the owner of the domain has a 60 day grace period. So, on July 27, 2000, I'll hopefully be checking the Who-Is database to see if this domain name become available for purchase.
Brett, I know you have experience with this - did you contstantly check the Who-Is database on the 60th day to see if the domain name became available. How many times/day were you checking?
Just thought I would share what I learned.
Ok, back to the topic. Yes, I checked the domain daily for 60 days until I found it wasn't listed. Often you will find the domain is released much earlier than 60days if the owner replies to the renewal request with a negative.
Also, study the times that the database is updated. If you think it is going to be sought after domain name, just try registering it - often it will go through. If it doesn't, you are sometimes put on a waiting list.
Also, thanks to NetworkSol for the free "Search Engine World.Com" t-shirt. They had a promo last month that I got in on.
A crucial time period is coming up for me to snag this domain name (hopefully). In Network Solutions, it says that the "Record expires on 27-May-2000."
When I called Network Solutions, they say they put a 60 day hold on the domain name to see if the owner will pay the registration fee. Well, it is already July and the day is coming. My question is this Brett:
I have noticed that the update the database around 10:00 p.m. Eastern time - Do you notice this trend?
Secondly Do I search on this domain name on July 26th at 10:00 p.m. or July 27th at 10. I unsure as to when the 60 days expires and will be updated in their WHOIS database! :)
This is nerve racking and fun at the same time! I look forward to your reply.
We had to fork out $7500.00 to a cyberpirate for one of our domains - I suppose not much for U.S standards but it certanily hurt.
I was later approached by a client to negotiate on their behalf for aquiring a domain from another squatter. Whilst on the phone with this guy, did a quick whois search and found that the fool had not renewed the domain and that the record had lapsed. As we "negotiated" and he speedily increased the asking price, I kept him interested on the phone long enough to register the domain.
One of the funnier moments in the short time that I have been involved in web marketing. I didnt charge the client apart from the registration fee.
Good luck Bradley - hope you get it!
Usually it just means that was the last time they collated the live database with updates (deletions, additions, corrections). There are two db's, the static one on disk, and the live one that contains all the updates. At some point during the day they have to collate those two db's.
Record last updated on 14-Aug-2000.
Record expires on 26-Jun-2000.
Record created on 25-Jun-1996.
Database last updated on 5-Sep-2000 14:29:55 EDT.
I called Network Solutions today in frustration and was told that "there was no telling" when the domain would be released for sale. He explained that NS waits for a certain number of expired domains to build up and then releases them in bulk. He would not tell me what that magic number is, or how soon this bulk release could happen. He then asked where I had gotten the phone number! (It was the tech/billing support # listed on their website: 1-888-642-9675)
I'm wondering if anyone else has heard this explanation or a different one...
Thank you for contacting Network Solutions.
NSI periodically deletes domain names that are up for deletion in bulk since
bulk deletion better enables us to insure that only those domain names that
are actually up for deletion are properly deleted (as compared to a running
deletion process). The dates on which these bulk deletions occur are
arbitrarily selected by our engineering department based upon system
loading and other technical factors. In order to protect against an
overload of our systems, we do not disclose these deletion dates.
You may, therefore, either continue to check our site for the availability
of the domain name and attempt to obtain it through the public registration
process or, in the alternative, contact the listed registrant directly
and discuss the possibility of executing a registrant name change agreement,
which would legally transfer the domain name registration directly from the
registrant to you, provided, of course, the registrant has already paid or
is still able to pay the registration renewal fee in accordance with the
NSI renewal notice he or she has received. We now offer a priority
name change service which would implement the transfer in 2 business days
for an additional fee.
Network Solutions Registrar
So given the above advice, I should keep applying for it periodically for the next 60 days right?
Here's the problem - NSI are the current owners. Given the press they've been having for hording names, it makes me nervous.
Any thoughts? (I _really_ want to get this domain.)
The domain I'm watching expired June 26 and is still in NS's database (sigh). I'm really getting sick of checking on it a couple of times a day...But what else can I do? I even wrote to ICANN, but they told me that it was perfectly OK for NS to have a 'grace period' in which customers can re-register their domain. That's fine, but 3 months? Wish I had that kind of grace period on my mortgage, car payment, etc...
When I contacted NS about the domain name I've been watching since June, they suggested that I contact the owner directly to see if he would be open to transferring it to my name. But that would require me to use NS as my registrar. (Gee, I wonder why they suggested that?)
So cynical for a Friday!