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Domains on pending delete w/ expr in 1 year?

How can this be?

         

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2:51 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've found a number of domains that the status is:

Status:INACTIVE
Status:PENDING DELETE RESTORABLE

But, when i look at the Expiration date, it is:

Expiration Date:20-Sep-2005 00:57:16 UTC

How can this be? Why would the domain be pending delete if it doesnt expire till 2005?

Also, will the domain actually be deleted soon? Or not till 05?

jnmconsulting

3:27 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have posted a list of terms that are used thoughout the process. It should answer all of your questions. Do not worry about the new date too much, I have run into quite a few times, it's standard protacol.

ACTIVE
This is the default status of a domain at registration time. The registry sets the domain to this status. The domain is modifiable by the registrar. The domain can be renewed. The domain SHALL be included in the zone file when in this status if the domain has at least one associated name server.

REGISTRY-LOCK
The registry sets the domain to this status. The domain cannot be modified or deleted by the registrar. The registry MUST remove the REGISTRY-LOCK status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain SHALL be included in the zone file when in this status if the domain has at least one associated name server.

REGISTRY-HOLD
The registry sets the domain to this status. The domain cannot be modified or deleted by the registrar. The registry MUST remove the REGISTRY-HOLD status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain SHALL NOT be included in the zone file when in this status.

REGISTRAR-HOLD
The registrar of the domain sets the domain to this status. The domain can not be modified or deleted when in this status. The registrar MUST remove REGISTRAR-HOLD status to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain SHALL NOT be included in the zone file when in this status.

REGISTRAR-LOCK
The registrar of the domain sets the domain to this status. The domain cannot be modified or deleted when in this status. The registrar MUST remove REGISTRAR-LOCK status to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain SHALL be included in the zone file when in this status.

REGISTRY-DELETE-NOTIFY
A domain is set on this status if it has expired and has child name servers that are hosting other domains. Only the registry may set this status. The domain SHALL be included in the zone file when in this status if the domain has at least one associated name server.
The domain deletion progresses through the following statuses.

REDEMPTIONPERIOD
A domain name is placed in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status when a registrar requests the deletion of a name that is not within the Add Grace Period. A name that is in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status will not be included in the zone file. A registrar can not modify or purge a name in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. The only action a registrar can take on a name in REDEMPTIONPERIOD is to request that it be restored. Any other registrar requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will be rejected. Unless restored, the domain will be held in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status for a specified number of calendar days. The current length of this Redemption Period is thirty calendar days.

PENDINGDELETE
A domain name is placed in PENDINGDELETE status if it has not been restored during the Redemption Period. A name that is in PENDINGDELETE status will not be included in the zone file. All registrar requests to modify or otherwise update a domain in PENDINGDELETE status will be rejected. A domain name is purged from the registry database a specified number of calendar days after it is placed in PENDINGDELETE status. The current length of this Pending Delete Period is five calendar days.

PENDINGRESTORE
A domain name is placed in PENDINGRESTORE status when a registrar requests restoration of a domain that is in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. A name that is in PENDINGRESTORE status will be included in the zone file. Registrar requests to modify or otherwise update a domain in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status will be rejected. A domain name is returned to REDEMPTIONPERIOD status a specified number of calendar days after it is placed in PENDINGRESTORE unless the registrar submits a complete Registrar Restore Report to the Registry Operator. The current length of this Pending Restore Period is seven calendar days.

contrast compare

3:30 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So, what you are saying is that the domain will be deleted in five days even though it doesnt expire for over one year?

Man, that is odd. Im not saying I dont belive you, but it just seems so wierd.

How could that happen? Why would the registrar delete your domain even if it wasnt set to expire for a year? If that happened to me, id be mighty pissed off.

jnmconsulting

3:49 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Gennerally the registrar will try to notify the owner by using the email address that is attached to the owners info. if nothing is done then they start the process to make the domain available. when that process starts the registrar updates the domain accordingly, it seems when that happens the date defaults out one year. Don't let that discourage you, it does follow the process that I posted before. last year I had the same feeleing, and was worried about a domain I had been watching for over a year. Low and behold it went through the process as outlined. :-)

contrast compare

4:05 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks dude!

You rock the party that rocks the body!

Webwork

4:33 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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FYI - check the WhoIs for the registrar that actually registered the domain to see the real picture. This will often show the actual expiration date, that is, it will make it clear that the domain is expired.

The 'added year' you see is part of the process whereby the central registry database is queued 'to charge' the registrar for a presumptive domain extension. If the registrar fails to submit the delete authorization within the prescribed times the registrar can be charged by the central registry for the registrar's cost (versus the registrar's markup/profit).

ganderla

4:35 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Would it also be possible that the person who owns it dropped it?

I have done that in the past to domains that I must have bought when I was drunk.

davezan

4:37 pm on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When a domain name expires at the registrar level, the registry would auto-renew it for
1 year while the registrar attempts to secure renewal payment for it. If unsuccessful, the
registrar will tell the registry they won't keep it anymore, and the registry will cancel the
auto-renew and refund the registrar.

GoogleGuy

8:17 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmm. Was this .org, .biz, .info, .cn? Some specifics on the TLD would probably help narrow down why you're seeing this.

cyberair

9:37 am on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I saw the same on a .info

davezan

5:40 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmm. Was this .org, .biz, .info, .cn? Some specifics on the TLD would probably help narrow down why you're seeing this.

The "auto renew" at the Registry level is per gTLD currently. Other registries may do
so at their discretion.

To be sure, just check the registry in question.