Getting domain with False WHOIS dropped.

Has anyone succeeded in...

[Romster]

Getting domain with False WHOIS dropped.

Has anyone succeeded in getting a domain name that has false WHOIS data dropped?

I am monitoring a domain that will expire in about 12 month. At this point it hasn’t been used for around 10 month and the WHOIS data is 100% fake. Phone is something like +1.2345… and the address is 123 Not sure, Notsureville ;) Nameservers for the domain are not working (they are NS1 NS2.domain.com) and the admin email is from this domain so it isn’t working.

I have e-mailed eNom multiple times regarding this issue and have had no reply.

So is there some way to get this name dropped as it is impossible to contact the owner and the whois is false?

[Webwork]

Perhaps, if you are in pursuit of the domain, you energy would be better spent trying to find a way to buy the domain. If it's a domain of any significant value getting it dropped will likely mean someone else will win control.

[digitalv]

I always use false Whois data every time for every domain, no exceptions.

Not receiving spam, postal mailings, or "dude can I buy your domain" offers is a very positive side effect.

[Romster]

[energy would be better spent trying to find a way to buy the domain.]

I have tried contacting the owner but the e-mail doesn't work (it's in a form of [e-mail] and the domain.com has nonworking nameservers)

I have backordered this domain (at multiple places) and I will wait untill it is dopped natuerally, but would be nice to get it sooner...

False WHOIS info is against ICANN rules - So has anyone had a domain dropped because of it?

[Webwork]

I haven't heard of any such success stories and if they're out there I'm certain the people having the success aren't talking = business as usual.

[digitalv]

False WHOIS info is against ICANN rules

No, it's not. Providing your REGISTRAR with false information is againt ICANN policies. Providing false WHOIS information is not. The information stored in my registrar's database is my real contact info, but the information shown on WHOIS isn't. I would never put my real contact information on a whois.

Below is an excerpt from ICANN's registrar accreditation agreement...

3.7.7.2 A Registered Name Holder's willful provision of inaccurate or unreliable information, its willful failure promptly to update information provided to Registrar, or its failure to respond for over fifteen calendar days to inquiries by Registrar concerning the accuracy of contact details associated with the Registered Name Holder's registration shall constitute a material breach of the Registered Name Holder-registrar contract and be a basis for cancellation of the Registered Name registration.

A domain can only be canceled with the registrant provides false information to the registrar. You can put whatever the heck you want on the WHOIS. Since most people pay for domains by credit card, and most registrars have address verification set up, it's probably a safe bet that the person who owns that domain isn't going to have it canceled any time soon. I'm sure their registrar has their correct information.

[AW_Learner]

How do you give your registar seperate contact information then what shows up in the WHOis? I've only seen it where you fill out your info to the registar when you register a new name then that registar uses the exact info you gave them to send on to the WHOis info for the domain.
Is there a seperate place of info that you know is the one they will use for the WHOis then what the registar will keep on you? I also heard a while back that it was illegal or that they wanted to make it illegal to give false info. to the WHOis. So I've just been using a Privacy Proxy service when I register. That way for $9 a year the Proxies company info is what is showed in the WHOis instead of yours and all mail or email they get you have the option of having them fwd. to you or just destroying it. They said that any physical or email junk mail they get they throw away and don't fwd. to you. But that is $9 for each domain...

I can always sign up for a free junk email address just to use for registering domains so any junk doesn't mix with my other mail. But what really bothers me is leaving my physical address. Just registering a few domains only with my real address has caused me to get loads of junk mail at my house! Now that should be illegal!

[top5jamaica]

AW_Learner, i think it depends on your registrar. i use a couple that allow you to have totally separate data and you can change the whois to being anything you want while still giving them your own current data

[jcoronella]

Someone claims success:
[webmasterworld.com...]
(msg #:4)

another:
[webmasterworld.com...]
(msg #:37)

[1milehgh80210]

If it's a domain of any significant value getting it dropped will likely mean someone else will win control

Yes, its two large leaps of faith to assume
his info is fake=the domain gets dropped=I get the domain

[moonsilver]

Providing false WHOIS information is not.

I would like to know, if I could change my whois info on my domain? If not how do I prevent real info in whois on new domains?

[HughMungus]

I would like to know, if I could change my whois info on my domain? If not how do I prevent real info in whois on new domains?

Since no one has answered this yet I'll give it my badly-educated attempt.

Some registrars will let you change your own info. I'v done it recently but I can't remember if it was Godaddyor someone else who let me do it. Ask your registrar. If they don't let you, you can switch registrars.

And now, a question:

I've *been* using domains by proxy lately. Is there a valid reason to use domains by proxy if your registrar lets you control your WHOIS data?

[tedster]

There are some laws in the works that would make it illegal to provide false information to a registrar. But the right to have your accurate information kept private is unlikely to be challenged.

[Dan_Norder]

Your registration information can be made private by registrars who let you put their registration info in instead of theirs, but the whois infois still accurate in this case: they are the legal owners.

If you are putting fake info in whois (phone numbers, emails, addresses, etc.) that is not correct, you are violating the rules and can lose the name. Infact, any owner of domain names should get a mailing from their registrar once a year reminding them of that fact and including (or linking to) the current whois info to make sure that it is accurate.

[edited by: tedster at 9:06 pm (utc) on July 9, 2004]

[surfweb]

In most cases the Technical and Admin whois record appears public. For example Godaddy allows you to provide 3-4 records. Billing record is not shown, which obviously will be the most accurate.