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One site, two domain names

What is the proper way to do this?

         

nquinn

7:58 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am having a problem deciding on a domain name for my site.

Basically, the main keyphrase that I'd like to optimize for is fairly long ( budget-red-widgets.com ), and I think it might be a turn off for a like of customers to have to type that in.

So, I'd like to use another domain ( mysite.com ) in addition.

So, should I:

(1) register the 3-keyword url first, get all my incoming links with that, and then later register the easier domain name and point it to the site? How would I avoid getting penalized for duplicate content?

(2) register both as separate sites, and use the keyword url as a sort of 'gateway' page ( I know this isn't recommended)

I'd like to just use the simple url name, but I have a feeling i'd have a tough time getting people to use the anchor text that I'd need (seeing as how it's fairly long).

Share your thoughts!

-Neil

rmjvol

8:59 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you want to use the hyphenated domain, get both domains now.

The easy, safe way is to setup hosting on both, then do a 301 redirect of the brandeddomain.com to redirect to the multiple-keyword-domain.com. Do all your link campaign with the hyphenated domain.

Some of the techie guys might know a way to do this without setting up both hosting accounts but this works for me.

Make sure it's a 301.

Good luck & welcome to WebmasterWorld,
rmjvol

nquinn

9:04 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Let me further explain what I'm thinking about doing:

- point all links to my-keywords.com (since anchor text will be easier to get)
- put a 301 redirect to from my-keywords.com to my-easy-name.com

In a setup like this, can I keep adding inbound links to the my-keywords.com site to help the PR of my-easy-name.com? or how will the 301 handle this?

this way, i can get the anchor text i want, but have it all redirected to the easy domain name.

what drawbacks might this plan have?

would i have to diallow all crawlers to the easy-name.com url? very confused right now.

nquinn

9:08 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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rmjvol -

Your idea was what I first considered doing ... however, i'm concerned about the following:

(1) My users may not like seeing the domain changed to something spammy like my-keyword.com.

(2) Is there a way to do this same basic thing without getting hosting for both domain names? I'd ideally like to use just one account and two domains, using aliasing or whatever.

keep talking to me :)

jeepfun

2:14 am on Jan 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is possible to do this however depending on your web server configuration and if you can control it, you may not be able to. By default, most web servers are set to rewrite the URL to a default one (this is common setting for most for various reasons).

If your hosting yourself, I know you can do it in Apache. if you are not hosting yourself, contact your hosting provider -- depending on how they have things set up, you may or may not be able to do it.

Sorry for the ambiguous answer but it really does depend on the situation.

The_Hitcher

12:44 pm on Jan 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm not WHOLLY convinced that keyword domains make THAT much difference. I have around 7 domains, mainly to protect them which are all set under IIS (My own Windows based server) to default to one domain. The big Google only accepts the default one which is fine but certainly some engines still have other domains listed which were submitted years ago. You're right in that a short domain is generally easier to remember and type but in terms of visitors if the site is well built, it doesn't make much difference.

At one time I had all these domains on different sites (varied content) and BOY did I get hit hard for that. Lesson learned.

In fact only this week I recieved an enquiry from a local company who wanted me to add in an additional language to an existing site. They gave me a .com domain to look at. View source - there WAS no source. Content was being taken from a .co.uk domain. Checked that out - guess what? Content taken from a subfolder elsewhere. It explained why they had such poor (if not non-existent) listings and rather than a simple language addition its become a really messy situation that will take months to put right.

Use one domain and do any redirects at server level.

Just one perspective on it anyway.