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Buying expired domain name with thousands of links.

Will this help me to get a high pr quickly?

         

megeve

9:14 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I have just subscribed to a expired domain service which tells you domains that have expired with links pointing to them. One of the domains has 98000 links pointing to it and this is verified by google. Unfortunately, these links do not register anywhere else, ie yahoo, msn etc. I was just wondering whether these links would help me to attain a high pagerank quickly, or not, and also is this a scam.
Thanks
Tom

lizzie

12:34 am on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is interesting. Thats a lot of links. Can you tell the the domain and where you got it? Id like to take a look and research it and also see what I think of the site where you got it. I am always wary of things like this. I also wonder what kind of money you paid for it.

cabbie

2:42 am on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My friend do not fall for the oldest trick in the book.

Make sure those links are actually on the sites before you buy.Quite a few expiring names point at an authority site before they expire and acquire the authorities site pr and backlinks.But this is false pr and the links are worthless.
There was a talk on forum3 about this very thing a week ago.

operafan

2:58 am on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But Googleguy once said that when a domain expires, and picked up by another person. They will remove all PR related to the site?

lizzie

4:18 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Operafan, not true. I got a site with about 100 links and now over 2 years later 77 of those same links are still good. I put an index page that was in the same catagory as the pages that link to it. That's the secret to keeping the links.

operafan

4:38 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, that made me wondering as what Googleguy once said. Bcoz if the links are still there than when crawler comes, it should go to your site & update the PR.. hmmm :)

megeve

11:02 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi there, thanks for your help, the domain was www.deadliner.com, but I failed to get it. Could someone who knows about this kind of thing have a quick look to see if the links would work or not. I would be very grateful if you could.
Thanks

cabbie

5:59 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You saved your money.
The links are to citeseer.nj.nec.com/cs and if you search in google for pages containing deadliner.com you get a big fat zezo

HighPR

4:58 am on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This group is SO right.

I unfortunately did not have this information when I bought a domain several weeks ago.

It was a PR 9 with tens of thousands of links to it. They had all been coming form a single source (CNN). As the domain was dropped, so were the links.

Google took a few weeks to catch up and then the PR went immediately to 0.

You must confirm that the links are valid before purchasing.

On a side note - I also purchased an expired PR 6 domain in August - it has remained a PR 6 due to a large and diverse set of backlinks.

megeve

8:16 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I am sorry, I do not understand. I have found another domain with thousands of links to it. It has a more diverse range of sites but many gets the links off one site. What I do not understand is why google drops some links when the domain expires but does not drop others. Also, where can you find valid domains with good links and high PRs.
Thanks

richlowe

9:11 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It might seem that it is a quick shortcut to fame and fortune to purchase a pre-used domain with links and such. This is often just a scam or mirage. It's far better to honestly build your own link exchange properly targetted than to try and be clever. If you happen to stumble across one that looks good and can pick it up at a "normal" registrar, that's one thing, but paying a premium - well, I wouldn't.

Short cuts usually aren't.

Also remember with any used domain you get the dirty laundry as well. Spam, blacklisting, PR issues and anything else. You could even get links in bad reviews and so on.

EquityMind

9:24 pm on Nov 29, 2003 (gmt 0)



Sounds like HighPR bought a site that had purchased text links from CNN most likely and then when the transaction was completed, they stopped advertising. At Google's next crawl schedule of CNN (which is every 15 minutes), they noticed the links missing and subtracted the PR from the benefitting site.

EquityMind

yintercept

7:40 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I put an index page that was in the same catagory as the pages that link to it. That's the secret to keeping the links.

I am surprise that so few people realize this. There is probably a good affiliate program somewhere that will fit almost any content group.

I hate people who buy up an expired kids site and turn it to porn. I've been so upset up at some of these people that I've actually gone through, looked up all the backlinks for a URL, then emailed the web masters, Zeal and DMOZ, etc., to hasten the link removal process.

BTW, rather than an index page, a simple product description and a link to a store will probably get more dinero. BTW, I am not into buying expired URLs.

HighPR

7:17 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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EquityMind,

The domain had expired - I picked it up - when I FIRST placed it live it showed a PR of 9 on the Google toolbar - then after about 8 days or so - the PR went straight to 0.

For full disclosure, the domain is:

www.usavsiraq.com

Hopefully I'm not breaking any forum rules by listing it - just wanted everyone to understand exactly what happens when these types high PR of domains expire.