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Question of how to obtain detagged domain

         

pixels

4:05 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi folks,

OK, I've searched the archives and educated myself about the detagged domain name. Why? Because the one I have my eyes on has been detagged and not been updated for the past two years.

Now, my question is, should I go with these guys who asks for £25 so that I may get notified once it becomes available? I just don't know what would be best... to check it manually or use their service. It's not about the refunds of money either. I suppose the bottom line is, there is no guarantee that I will be able to obtain this domain.

The name I'm interested is nowhere near porn related so I don't think it's highly popular however, it's one word domain name, well twowrods stuck together.

Pixels

Shak

4:23 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would strongly advise using a detagged specialist for this purpose.

Even if it seems like no 1 else may be interested in the name, its still too much of a risk to try and go for it manually.

A number of players have started offering this service lately, but to be honest there are only 3-4 REAL players in the industry, and ONLY 1 of them offers the service commercially.

the others get detagged domains for themself, either to resell, lease or development purposes.

I have seen some of the domains acquired by these individuals, and must say they are very impressive.

You may want to do some checks on the comapnies you are thinking of using, such as when "their" domain name was originally registered.

I also came across 1 company, who I contacted with a view to monitoring a detagged domain name, they accepted the application, sent an invoice, took the money, and then said

"oh sorry, we just realised it was pre-booked"

Good Luck

Shak

SEO practioner

5:28 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Pixels:

One word of caution here: be careful the domain name you want to apply for has not been penalized or banned by Google:

Go to : www.archive.org and check it on the way back machine for your own protection

Good luck :-)

SEO

pixels

5:56 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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SEO_practioner,

I did check the domain and there was a page... probably belonged to UK2.net at one time back in 2001.
However, the registrant is a person's name.
How would I know if the domain is banned from Google?

Shak,
That was the kind of thing I was worried about. Thanks for your comment.

Pixels

SEO practioner

6:34 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Pixels, you can always ask Google Guy here in the forum, but personally, I would stay away from it. Most expired domains are not much worth it Pixels...

Too many got banned or penalized in the "Go-go" days...

Can't you register a new domain that will start "clean"?

Shak

6:47 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



seo practioner,

If you are the new owner, then simply asking for a reinclusion into the index pointing out change in ownership should do the trick.

Obviously as its a .co.uk domain, the domain expiry/owner penalty etc etc should NOT be relevant, as at present I am not aware of Google having the "black book" from Nominet.

Shak

pixels

6:57 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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SEO_practioner,

I may have to put theXYZ.co.uk instead of XYZ.co.uk :..(
Interesting though, I've delved into further using Google and the registrant has a number of .co.uk domain auctioned at auction.names123.com for £500 each and they are all detagged domains. Mnnn guys' keeping the hold of the names without paying the renewal fee, hoping one day it will pay him off.

Shak,
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If you are the new owner, then simply asking for a reinclusion into the index pointing out change in ownership should do the trick.
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Thanks for the useful information. I will remember IF I ever get the detagged domain.

Pixels

Smiley

7:03 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



SEO_practioner,

Shak has covered most points very very well...

Keep an eye on when the domain goes suspended, then its really ripe.

IMO £25 for this type service drop catcher service is a real bargain.

Smiley

Smiley

7:07 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mnnn guys' keeping the hold of the names without paying the renewal fee, hoping one day it will pay him off.

Then make sure you don't show any interest, otherwise he will snap is back!

Edwin

9:48 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



If it looks like it could be a valuable name, you may already be out of luck. I'm tracking over a hundred .co.uk domains, and many of the ones on my shortlist were already reserved at the major drop catching services even before I approached them, even though the names may not drop for months or even years (DETAGGED status can sometimes last for 2 years or more, it's down to luck as much as anything else)

pixels

10:24 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



smiley,

I know I have to be careful and stay shutom :)

Edwin,
So even if I go to drop cather guys, they may turn around and say, 'sorry, that's been reserved by other client'. This may be true or they may get greedy themselves... Well that's too bad.

I'm coming to some conclusion that detagged is really not worth that much hassel. Just start new... fresh.

Pixels

Edwin

2:19 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My experience with drop catchers is that they are prepared to catch even SUPERB domains for others, so I don't think they're keeping much back for themselves.

SEO practioner

2:32 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Good luck Pixels

:-)

CHC

6:46 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



"You may want to do some checks on the companies you are thinking of using, such as when "their" domain name was originally registered." - Shak

It does indeed seem to be "jump on the .co.uk dropcatching bandwagon" this month. Every man and his dog seems to be setting up a UK dropcatching service. Most are not even Nominet members of course and are simply resellers for a service that itself is only a few weeks old.

Some of these services are not even prepared to disclose the names that they have caught (because most haven't actually caught a single domain) and assert the absurd excuse that "all their clients have requested total confidentiality". Ummm, I'm sorry, but last time I check there was a public whois server at www.nic.uk.

Don't take any claims at face value, ask other domainers their opinions as to which services they have used and look at the forums; bad apples get unmasked pretty quickly in this business. And doing basic checks such as Shak's excellent suggestion of verifying from the whois how long they have been in bsuiness all will go towards helping you to choose the right service for you.