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eBay decides that Google Payments is not safe for them

or is it simply just that they own PayPal?

     
6:20 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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eBay/PayPal has now bannished using Google Payments for checkouts.

Google Payments has suddenly appeared eBay/PayPal's list for un-safe methods for payments
since they determined it "does not have a substancial track record".
[pages.ebay.com...]

eBay is banning sellers from requesting payment through Google Checkout. The online auction giant updated its Safe Payments policy this week to add Google's new payment service, Google Checkout to its list of online payment methods not permitted on eBay.

eBay's Safe Payments policy states that a payment service must have a "substantial historical track record of providing safe and reliable financial and/or banking related services."

Google's spokesperson said yesterday, "Google Checkout is not a beta product. Google has a long history in billing and payments for AdWords and for premium services, such as Google Video."

- Auction Bytes

Granted eBay/PayPal can do (almost) whatever they'd like but I'd like to be the first to welcome them to the real world of competition and possibly the declining years of their business.

[edited by: tedster at 1:26 am (utc) on July 7, 2006]
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12:42 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Fine. Google should ban ebay from using AdSense and take them down from their search results. They are losers if they dont... they want a war they should get a war. I had $5000 frozen on Paypal with no reason for 4 month. I closed my ebay store a few month ago and now I have a positive balance (+$14) with them (in other words they owe me money) but they cant give it to me, I need to "use" it somehow.

To how many people they owe money this way? Maybe we can organize a class lawsuit for that? :-)

2:02 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>Why is it that Google has hidden behind the "beta" tag for an extended period on every other new offering besides this one?

Probably because few people would trust real money to something labeled "beta". :)

2:39 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good work ebay.
4:35 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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EBay announced Thursday that the head of its PayPal service, Jeff Jordan, will be leaving the company as part of a major overhaul of senior management

Jordan was viewed as a potential successor to eBay's chief executive officer Meg Whitman

Forbes [forbes.com]

That was quick!

5:45 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Paypal used to be good but a lot of what made them good has been changed - personally Ill Google system instead.

If only theyd launch in the UK

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Jordan was viewed as a potential successor to eBay's chief executive officer Meg Whitman

Probably his next job would be at Google Checkout!?
7:20 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google should ban all ebay listings from their index and the entire ebay site.

Tit for Tat...

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"Google should ban all ebay listings from their index and the entire ebay site."

I wonder how much spam that would remove.

8:01 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Google should ban all ebay listings from their index and the entire ebay site."

I bet they just sit back and smile. A big smile that stretches from one ear right to the other one.

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Fine. Google should ban ebay from using AdSense and take them down from their search results. They are losers if they dont...

Google would be compromising its own credibility if it removed eBay from its search results, unless it redefined its acceptability standards to ban all similar pages.

On the other hand, it might be doing everyone a favor if it tightened up the standards for eBay ads. I don't think too many people except eBay affiliates and eBay would object.

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This is great for Google. It legitimizes their e-payment product as a threat to Paypal/eBay, while allowing them to play the underdog at the same time.

Then sooner or later eBay will have to reverse itself, and that will legitimize Google Payments all over again.

6:49 pm on July 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Indeed what if Google now ban all Ebay listings from their index,has Ebay thought about it before it has banned Google payments?

After all thats not fair competition

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Indeed what if Google now ban all Ebay listings from their index,has Ebay thought about it before it has banned Google payments?

After all thats not fair competition

when will google accept PayPal?

lol

2:26 pm on July 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, I smell another anti-trust suit.

So then any business that chose to only accept AMEX (or any other form of payment) or not to accept it would have to fall under a grey area too.

Since when can you not decide what forms of payment you want to take?

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Since when can you not decide what forms of payment you want to take?

Since when are you required to take certain forms of payments?

So many retailers recently have decided to not accept Amex just because of internal problems. Some choose only VISA.. some choose only MC.. some get paid by VISA to only accept VISA and so on.

You are not required to take payments from any source. Although the harder you make it on your customers to pay.... then the less sales you will have.

There is still freedom to conduct your business as you see fit.

I just hate how they are calling G "unproven" instead of just saying.... "we don't accept G payments".... with no explaination.

[edited by: Demaestro at 3:20 pm (utc) on July 10, 2006]

5:31 pm on July 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Since when can you not decide what forms of payment you want to take?"

Of course eBay itself can decided what sort of payments it will take for its services. But it is forcing its users to accept certain types of payments and it is a completely different issue.

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G$$gle doesn't need to ban eBay listings. All it has to do is to pay special attention to duplicate content that is autogenerated by eBay affiliates, just like they do it for Amazon. Lots of spam will be removed from serps, and eBay will finally start feeling "unlucky" ;)
2:57 am on July 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ANY SEARCH TERM

Whatever you are looking for, you can find it on eBay.

www.eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeBay.com

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I can only hope that G will retaliate in some way and remove these stupid adword ads.

But then they'd have to remove them for shopping sites, Sears, and others that never actually have a product they 'advertise'for.

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Re: retaliation

Folks, this is big business, not the schoolyard. Attitudes like, "If you don't play by my rules, then I'm taking the ball and going home!," generally do not work and have led to lawsuits (against the whiners) before.

If Google were to retaliate - which they won't - it would only be their loyal crew of sycophants who would not see Google as a petulant child crying in the corner. As a publicly-traded company, Google can ill-afford coming across as petty and childish.

10:53 am on July 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Payment Services permitted on eBay: Allpay.net, Bidpay, Canadian Tire Money, cash2india, CertaPay, Checkfree.com, hyperwallet,com, Moneybookers.com, Ozpay.biz, Paymate.com.au, Propay.com, XOOM

Payment Services not permitted on eBay: AlertPay.com, anypay.com, AuctionChex.com, AuctionPix.com, BillPay.ie, ecount.com, cardserviceinternational.com, CCAvenue, ecount, e-gold, eHotPay.com, ePassporte.com, EuroGiro, FastCash.com, Google Checkout, gcash, GearPay, Goldmoney.com, graphcard.com, greenzap.com, ikobo.com, Liberty Dollars, Moneygram.com, neteller.com, Netpay.com, Nochex.com, paychest.com, payingfast.com, Payko.com, paypay, Postepay, Qchex.com, rupay.com, scripophily.com, sendmoneyorder.com, stamps, Stormpay, wmtransfer.com, xcoin.com
" - [pages.ebay.com...]

Nochex has also been banned :(

Looks like Ebay want to force everyone onto PayPal

6:21 pm on July 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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According to Ebay, if a seller offers a blacklisted payment service, he/she could lose power seller status or even be suspended. Scare tactics? Ebay should be scared!
6:56 pm on July 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can any one tell me where is the link or invitations for GBay...?

Google has lot of money and talent both to run and complete ebay products as like they did for yahoo mail and hotmail.

You well know how Gmail is working, I would not prefer google to Ban listing on ebay from there search engine as they have their own values, So should not implement SERPS just for any revenge.

They should not worry what other are doing people will automatically redirect to the best product :)

6:16 am on July 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Re: Retaliation.

They don't call it the sandbox for nothing.

11:05 pm on July 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ebay runs the risk of people heading for another auction platform (G-Bay?). And provide G with a good excuse: we didn't want this in the first place, but gazillions of customers wanted us to offer auctions that accept G-Pay.

Unlikely. Let's put it into perspective. Some of the eBay sellers may want to use G-Pay, but do the end customers of eBay really care?

I don't see them saying: that's it, I don't see the google checkout logo, I'm finding another auction site.

Even eBay sellers have been accustomed to PayPal for a long time and will probably sitck with it. Except those whose accounts are frozen, of course.

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