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How do you deal with awkward customers?

Not complaints, just customers that expect to be treated badly

         

lecaptain

10:07 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you're in e-commerce you'll know the ones. They think you're going to treat them badly and so send angry e-mails at the slightest problem. And you just want to tell them to relax, we'll sort things out.

Me? Always get them on the 'phone. An argument via e-mail gets you no where. A quick phone call and they usually see common sense and calm down.

Any e-mail slightly abusive receives an e-mail telling them to call us. Usually they do, and usually they are nice as pie.

jsinger

12:26 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"A quick phone call and they usually see common sense and calm down."

Couldn't agree more. Sometimes the telephone works far better and faster than email.

Essex_boy

9:34 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yeah it also say 'Im taking your problem seriously and calling you long distance' which is often teh case with me

jbrevell

3:14 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree; I find email can commonly misrepresent the sentiment behind a statement, that's why smilies are so widely used. However smilies have no place in a business transaction ;)

Phone or face to face carries so much more non-verbal information and customers appreciate the effort

John

RailMan

7:04 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i just say goodbye
arguments get you nowhere, whether by email or phone or any other way - they just take up valuable sales / promo / development time

axgrindr

8:05 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We usually find that that when problems with orders arise the initial email from the customer can quite often be abusive.
I can understand the frustration of someone who has just purchased something through a faceless website and then hasn't been able to receive their product. Customers often write and send these emails without thinking.
We respond to emails very quickly (we can't respond by phone as every call would be international) and have a stock set of answers for any problem that might arise. Our replies are extremely courteous and apologetic no matter what the customer has said in their email.
The customer usually writes back apologizing for the first email and expressing how grateful they for such a quick response.
There are the occasional customers that are never satisfied no matter how many solutions you give them. We simply refund their money instead of wasting time with them.

wildbest

9:18 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"A quick phone call and they usually see common sense and calm down."

I'm very suspicious when someone insist they have to give me a phone call to explain things! It is amazingly irritating and people that insist to do that just can't figure out how irritating this can be! Everything that can be explained by phone can also be explained in an email message, right? The mere fact they insist they have to explain things by phone and not in an email, speaks they lack real arguments to what they want to say...

jsinger

1:16 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Wrong: when there is a complex back and forth exchange to clarify something, phone is faster.

We get emails like "tell me about your products" or "what does that color of yellow look like?"
Hey, we don't have Hemingways working for us.

We know these are often the beginning of an email exchange that could take days. Average email doesn't get a reply for more than 24 hours.

IF WE CAN GET THRU TO THE CUSTOMER by phone, we can clear up almost any problem in minutes...and sometimes get them to add to their order.

jsinger

1:23 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BTW< we phone customers frequently. 99% of the time they are thrilled we called, especially when they've made a mistake.

Usually we win over the other 1% by the time the call is over.

MANY others on this board have said the same thing over the years. And they agree that follow up calls OFTEN result in add-on sales.

axgrindr

1:31 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't know. It seems like it would be time consuming and expensive to have to call customers to give them information that sounds like it could easily be put online. How do you explain a color over the phone?

minnapple

3:48 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[ It seems like it would be time consuming and expensive to have to call customers to give them information that sounds like it could easily be put online ]

If you could make a few hundred dollars an hour, by talking to people on the phone, would you do it?

If you could make a buck or two would you do it?

Depending on what you are selling, direct customer services offers different returns.

jsinger

4:33 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It seems like it would be time consuming and expensive to have to call customers to give them information that sounds like it could easily be put online

We have very thorough product descriptions and FAQs...and we constantly improve them based on feedback. But if we covered every remote possibility, there would be so much text that customers would RUN from our site.

How do you describe yellow by phone?

How do you do it on the web? Internet color swatches are nearly useless (but customers expect them anyway)

If we ask by phone what the customer is trying to match, we pretty much know whether OUR yellow will be close. The back and forth would be difficult and slow by email.

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Most of the calls we make are to correct probable customer errors. ie. Customer orders three widgets in Lemon Yellow and a fourth in Pale Yellow. We want to ship right away. An email might get caught in their spam filter or whatever. At best, a reply might come in a day or two.

So we phone ASAP and ship an hour later

axgrindr

4:46 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was just surprised that it was believed to be "wrong" to try to solve customer issues via email.

I would certainly talk to a customer on the phone if he requested it.

minnapple

4:57 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have a couple of brick and mortar clients that I created websites for them about five years ago.

I begged them to get 1-800 numbers from the start.

After awhile, they gave in.

Now when we talk about online sales and I think there might be a problem, they say, "but you don't see our phone sales".

Closing deals online is increasing sales to those that can answer questions quickly, considering so many sites are selling the same product or like product line.

A real time person will convert at least 50x over a late email in my opinion.

wildbest

10:08 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Wrong: when there is a complex back and forth exchange to clarify something, phone is faster.

You still do not get my question; what's that you can say by phone but can not get it explained in an email?

Moreover, if "there is a complex back and forth exchange", there is a complex issue behind. If there is a complex issue behind, it needs to be as clearly explained as possible, not faster!

We get emails like "tell me about your products" or "what does that color of yellow look like?" Hey, we don't have Hemingways working for us.

Why do you think I would like to read your email novels? BTW, if you can't explain something in a short email message, how would you do it in a short phone call?

We know these are often the beginning of an email exchange that could take days. Average email doesn't get a reply for more than 24 hours.

Well, I'm not in a hurry to buy your product! Insisting on to phone me, just means you're in a hurry to sell it. And this is very irritating!

IF WE CAN GET THRU TO THE CUSTOMER by phone, we can clear up almost any problem in minutes...and sometimes get them to add to their order.

If I've contacted you by an email I'm expecting to be responded by an email... If I want things explained by phone, I'd have call you by phone... It's the customer who decides the priority of the issue under question, not the merchant!

I'm sick of marketers insisting to give me a phone call and trying to upsell instead of answering a simple question by an email!

jsinger

2:15 pm on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm sick of marketers insisting to give me a phone call and trying to upsell instead of answering a simple question by an email!

Hey we don't want to phone (or email) anyone. Both are time consuming. Reaching someone by phone is difficult unless we phone immediately after the order is placed while he is still at his computer. But doing it by email is vastly slower and OFTEN impossible. Some people never read their emails. 5% bounce. And we do try to answer "simple" questions by email. Email works about 90% of the time.

We're not "trying to upsell," but anytime you contract a customer by phone (or email) the possiblity of an upsale exists. It is especially likely if the retailer sounds competant and honest by phone.

Fact for us and just about anyone: Average telephone sale is larger than online sales. In our case, about 40% larger.

Now when we talk about online sales and I think there might be a problem, they say, "but you don't see our phone sales".

Right! Two best days in the recent history of our rather ancient company: 1) when we started selling online; 2) when we got our first 800#

Well, I'm not in a hurry to buy your product! Insisting on to phone me, just means you're in a hurry to sell it. And this is very irritating!

So you're among the .1% of our customers who order by mail. :)

oldpro

3:24 pm on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The subject of most of the angry emails we get center around our "orders are shipped same or next day" statement on our website. The typical email accuses us of false advertising because they did not get their order on the day or next day after they get their order.

Immediately proceeding our "all orders shipped same or next day" we state "please allow 4 to 5 business days for delivery"

With most of these customers we direct them back to our website and politely ask them to take a look at our shipping policy again.

Some people just like to pick a fight. If you refused to be drawn into to their drama, usually they will calm down and be reasonable. If after directing them back to our website and they follow up with a nasty emails, we simply ignore them and not respond. If they follow up with a call we politely tell them their order has been shipped and if they are dissatified with our service to refuse delivery and we will refund their order when we receive the order back.

Most "awkward" customers are simply people who are unhappy with their own lives in general and there is nothing you can do to make them happy.

ispy

2:38 am on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)



Yep, oldpro. If the customers response is disproportionate to the problem it means personal issues are at hand. Sometimes it's better to leave it alone and not fan the fires with more email which could make things worse or a phone conversation which can turn bad, or at least wait a couple days until the person cams down. The immediate emails and phone responses to an angry customer are probably not a good idea.

Wlauzon

5:21 am on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Regardless of the pros and cons of email vs phone etc, there ARE some customers that are simply not worth the effort to deal with. Those we try to send to our competitors.

About 1 out of 1000 you just gotta wonder how they missed appearing in the Darwin Awards so far.

A couple of years ago, we had some "lady" send us an empty box of chocolates for a refund. Said that they "did not taste good". Biggest problem is that we do not sell chocolate, we sell things like wire and batteries. Yet she was totally insistent that she bought the chocolate from us "a while back". When asked how she decided it was us, she said something about how our web pages were the same color...

jsinger

5:48 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"A couple of years ago, we had some "lady" send us an empty box of chocolates for a refund. Said that they "did not taste good". Biggest problem is that we do not sell chocolate, we sell things like wire and batteries. Yet she was totally insistent that she bought the chocolate from us "a while back". When asked how she decided it was us, she said something about how our web pages were the same color..."

Hilarious!

Yeah, you gotta wonder how some people learned to walk upright.