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We use highly targeted keywords, so our visitors are qualified, our site is fasting loading,
well designed, and we have excellent selection and prices that can't be beat. Our advertising
is targeted mostly to the USA.
Our only disadvantage, we are located in Canada. We have both Canadian and US prices displayed.
We guarantee no duties or taxes (under NAFTA) and our shipping charges is equivalent to US domestic
If Americans love to shop as much Canadians on the web, I estimate we are losing 30% of our
We are thinking of setting up a US mailing address, and have a separate web site for the USA with
prices in US dollars for American customers.
Are 30% of Americans refusing to shop online outside the USA, or am I missing something? I hate to
redesign the website, if there are other reasons for the poorer conversion rate of American customers.
Has anybody encountered the same experience?
With all things being equal, does it matter to you, where you buy your goods?
Are you excluding traffic that is not human? If that high of a percentage of visitors are leaving within a few seconds, something isn't right. I would assume that the site is appealing and immediately presents what the visitor was looking for. I do find that many will exit that first page they find if they don't immediately see what they were searching for. Its all relevant to the amount of content on the page.
We Americans, or I should only speak for myself, want it now. Yes we love to shop on the web for products, hence the skyrocketing online commerce industry. I think if your product can be found locally at the same, or close to the same price, I'd probably go local. If its a product that is hard to find, I may stick with the first two resources I locate, doesn't matter where they are. Unless of course we are talking about volume (weight). If that is the case, I want someone who has a warehouse close to my region or offers special shipping discounts.
Are you by chance viewing WebTrends server based statistics? I'm not too certain those numbers are entirely accurate.
> Is there any script/software tool to do that?
I believe most server based and web based statistics programs have an area pertaining to average visit length.
joined:June 18, 2002
The vast majority of our traffic comes from humans, as compared to robots and spiders, so this
is not it.
Are 30% of Americans refusing to shop online outside the USA
I don't know if that number is accurate, but I would say you are close.
We have both Canadian and US prices
I would strongly suggest you lose the Canadian pricing and stick with the greenback.
shipping charges is equivalent to US domestic
Bump up the retail price and include the shipping for free. Be sure to remind your customers that shipping is free next to every product you sell. Does wonders for conversion.
We are thinking of setting up a US mailing address
Do it. Do it now.
The more "American" you can look, the better you will convert. Period.
joined:June 18, 2002
Shouldn't pushing the low prices, and informing customers about the free shipping illusion (free shipping = higher prices) help?
Depending how the stats package is set up, it can look like every AOL'er is a one page wonder!
I too try to make my site as "American" as I can. The way I have it setup is ALL prices are in USD$. There is a set of radio buttons under a "currency" section on the site that switchs all the dynamically generated pages from USD$ to CAD$ or EURO for Canadian or European users. Since USD$ is listed first (and is the default currency) and because Euro's are also there, I think Americans tend to think it is more of an American site selling goods internationally. But the functionality is still there for Canadians to view all prices in CAD$ only. The checkout even bills them in their currency.
I offer free shipping for items $50 and up. (Average sale of about $300, so that's not too bad). Free Overnight shipping on $150 and up. But my American competitors do about the same. I guess if you sell items in the $5-50 range, it's hard to offer free shipping.
I do not tell them there are no duties and taxes to the US, (otherwise they will know you're Canadian-based) and they will not believe you anyway. I do not tell them there may be delays in customs, because they will not trust the shipping time (even though customs delays are very rare for me). But if they ask, I tell them there is no duties/taxes and could possibly be held in customs for a day or two while shipping. And if they get charged duties/taxes for whatever reason, I pay for it. I also list in the footer of every page (in very small text), that we are based in Canada and the US. (to get "Canada" search requests and make it clear we have a US address catering to US consumers).
I have even went so far as to include the NY address in the DNS info to get overture to let me bid on terms without having to put "Canada based" in the listing.
Having said all that, my average user stays on the site around 4.5 mins, and the "ditch time" under 10 seconds is about 32%. With 20+% staying for 5 mins or more. I think that's pretty good, but I do intend to work on it some more.
joined:June 18, 2002
I normalized traffic for AOL, and still have a large gap. Looks like my web site is going Dual Citizenship.
I have the same problem with Overture, on new listings. They want me to list country of origin in the description. Do I need to change my DNS info, or will a American address & Prices be enough, for Overture to treat us as a US site?
Their is probably no lawyers out there, but does having a US address (used only for mail fowarding) count as NEXUS. I.E. do I have to collect state sales tax for the State with my mailing address?
As for getting around OVER's stupid rules the DNS thing helps, but one other trick I learned is that if you submit all your "Canadian listings" and "American listings" seperately, they will not notice and leave you alone.
For example, when submitting your US batch like "widgets", "blue widgets" ... etc. Don't include them with your Canadian batch of search terms "Canada widgets", "Canadian widgets", "Ontario widgets". Wait for one batch to be approved, then submit the other and wait again, etc.