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Bubzeebub

2:51 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How difficult is it to integrate Miva shopping card into a website? I'm in the process of doing one and am getting very little help in this area from the web hosting company.

BroadLea

5:37 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you asking about the back-end Empressa and OS, or more of the HTML integration with an existing site?

If the latter, MM isn't 100% customizable (at least, not out of the box), so if you need to match a look-and-feel of an existing site, it can be rough going. There are 3rd party modules that help in this regard (OpenUI, for example).

Bubzeebub

10:13 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is the integration with an existing HTML site a tough thing to do though?

Bubzeebub

12:24 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is it me or do most support people at web hosting companies not have a CLUE about this?

mdean

9:23 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We use Miva Merchant and have found it to be fairly easy to integrate to an existing website. Each product you add to your catalog comes with an URL to eithier "Buy Now" or "Add to Basket" we simply added the URL to our "Buy Now" buttons on our existing pages. There are a few complex things w/ Miva that we've paid a Miva programmer to do. You can also pay Miva for support and they will help you with some things as well. Our webhost didn't help at all.

Bubzeebub

1:24 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It seems like just linking the site to the shopping cart is confusing. Is it or am I just not aware of how it's done? Is this something I could quickly figure out from an online tutorial or should I just hire an expert to do it?

mdean

2:02 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's something you can do yourself. If you go to your Miva admin and go to your store...hit the link with your store name...you will see 2 round buttons at the top right hand corner. One looks like it has a flag on it w/ a red cross. The button to the left of it is a links button. In it you will find links that you can hyperlink to an add to basket or a buy now button. Play around with it on an html page and you should be able to see how it works. As for products, each product edit area also has a button on the top right that will give you URLs that you can hyperlink to that products add to basket or buy now button.

Bubzeebub

3:56 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ok..I'll work on it. Thanks!

BroadLea

12:41 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is it me or do most support people at web hosting companies not have a CLUE about this?

Quite true. Even hosts that are really competent about most server issues seldom have the expertise to tackle many MM issues that can arise.

We were on a well-known major US host for our first year, but found that when something wacky happened, they couldn't help. We then went with a much, much smaller company that specializes in Miva Merchant hosting (one of about a half-dozen excellent ones), and it has been magic for the past three years.

All this to say: if you are really going to rely heavily on your store, you might consider moving to one of these MM specialists sooner, rather than later.

Bubzeebub

1:15 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's more confusing than I thought......I'll keep trying though.

Bubzeebub

1:54 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I spoke to my web hosting company's tech support. They showed me the links to my store but they're now saying that I have to create the cute little buttons that say 'ADD TO CART' or 'BUY NOW.'

1) Is this true?
2) Where do I get such buttons?

mdean

2:08 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just get an image of a button or create one. You only have to do it once and then use it for all of your products.

Once you have the button, place it near your product, insert the hyperlink which you will find when you go to that product in Miva admin. (I use the "add to basket" links.) Voila. It will add the item to your shopping cart.

bunltd

2:10 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Bubzeebub, the basic install of Miva contains generic buttons for that. (but you might not like the way they look) Usually, you'll find them where ever the miva htdocs folder is, something like this: ../store/graphics/00000001/buyonenow.gif (the 00000001 might be a different number depending on how your host has it set up)

You can use the default buttons there - or replace them with images with your own. Hope this helps.

LisaB

mdean

2:21 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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LisaB,

I think he's using it to integrate the Miva shopping cart with an existing website. Can you still do that using their images. I didn't think you could.

bunltd

2:26 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sure, just link to the images like you would any other image. (it makes keeping up with them easier too, since Miva dumps the stuff you load through admin there, too.

LisaB

Bubzeebub

3:36 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I really can't figure this out. Most things I can figure out but this one is really giving me a problem. Where's the best place to find someone who can do it? ....and what do you think is a good price for someone to integrate the two?

mdean

5:24 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How many products do you have?

Bubzeebub

3:10 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I only have one product. The product is shown on the homepage. I'd like the product to be on every page though, giving the customer the ability to navigate the site and be able to buy without having to go back to the homepage. Currently, the homepage has an Add To Cart button that isn't functioning correctly. The button itself works with the following source code:

<a href="http://mysite.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc"><img src="images/addtocart.gif"></a><br>

(it's all on one line by the way)

However, when the person clicks on the Add To Cart button it just takes them to the merchant page (which is just my Miva admin page and not a cart showing the user's items to be purchased.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

mdean

5:38 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's kind of hard without actually seeing the site..
Do you have the product listed in your Miva Admin Product area? If you have the product listed in the catalog, all you have to do is now go find that product (under "products")hit the edit button to the far right and it will take you to the page with info on that product...cost, weight, etc. On the upper right hand corner are 2 round buttons, hit the left one which will have links for that particular product. Copy the link that says "add to cart" now paste and hyperlink that URL into your button image. I use to know how to do it in Frontpage, but since I now have Dreamweaver...a little confused on how it would be done. Upload your page and test it out. It should add the item to your basket.

mt_biker

10:42 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Bubzeebub,
Most hosting companies will not be able to help you with Miva issues. I'm in the process of moving some of my Miva clients to a host that specializes in Miva for that very reason. But since you have, as I gather, only one product, this should not be necessary in your case.
Now, regarding your other problem. The problem is that the url you are using to point to your product (<a href="http://mysite.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc">) is, as you've noticed, merely pointing to your Miva admin page. A url that points to an actual product will look something like this...

[mysite.com...]

Every product in a Miva Merchant database has its own individual url as in the above example. You'll have to find yours in the Miva Administator.

First, and most obvious, your product will need to be entered into the Miva database. If you haven't done this already, go to your Miva Admin and (in the left pane) click the little arrow to the left of Stores=>Your Store (whatever name you gave it)=>Products=>Add Product (here, click on the actual text). Fill in all the pertinent info (price, product code, etc.) for your product and click Update.

Now that the product is in the database, in the left pane click Products (the actual text, not the arrow). Your product (since you have only one) should be listed on that page. (If not, serach for it by product code.) To the right of the product name will be two buttons. If you mouseover them, the first will say Edit Here and the second will say Edit. You want to click the second one, the one that says Edit. This will take you to an Edit Product page. In the top right corner of this page are two more buttons. Do a mouseover and click the one that says Links. This will open a new browser window (called Product Links). The first link listed is Product Display: and this is the one you probably want to use in place of the one you've been using. Notice it has a store code and a prouct code in the url.

The reason I say the Product Display link is probably the link you'll want to use is because it leads to a page that allows the customer to browse your product and read up on any additional information you may have provided (when you entered it in the Miva database) and then decide if they would like to actually add your product to their shopping cart and/or purchase your product. The other two link options (Add One To Basket: and Buy One Now:) will place the product directly into the customers shopping cart without displaying your products page.

Hope this helps.

P.S. The above will only work assuming that you've already created a store in the Miva Admin. If you haven't done that go to Stores=>Add Store
P.S.S. There are other ways to do the above procedure, this was just the easiest to describe.

Bubzeebub

11:45 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks a million Mt_Biker. I did that and I was able to update the product information. However, I'm unable to upload the image of the product. I click on the link that says 'Images' at the top and then browse to upload the image of the product. It apparently uploads but never shows the image.

Another issue I'm running into is that, although I have a Product Display link that works it has two links at the left hand side that say 'Sign In' and another category description I designated. I'm not sure that they will appear in the real working link but if it will how can I get rid of them (especially the Sign In link!)?

Thanks again for your help!

mt_biker

2:13 pm on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Besides uploading the image file you also need to specify its path in the accompanying field. The paths for Miva images can be a little tricky. Mine looks like this...
../Merchant2/graphics/00000001/sm/yourimage.jpg
Yours would probably be similar, but without the sm/ directory. Have you specified the correct path?

Regarding the links on the left side...if I'm understanding you correctly, what you are refering to is called the "Category Tree". A normal Miva site in standard out-of-the-box mode would display all the categories you've defined for your store (and apparently the Sign In link) in the Category Tree. There are several ways to turn the Category Tree off.

I use the OpenUI Look & Feel module which provides and easy way to turn off the Category Tree. Click Stores=>Your Store (the actual text) and in the right pane you should see the Edit Store: screen. Click the Page Sections link and uncheck Show Category Tree. If you do not have the OpenUI module installed you may not be able to do this (I can't remember if Miva out-of-the-box allows this option) and will have to use one of the solutions below.

I'm pretty sure there are other modules out there that give you the option of turning off the Category Tree and you could use one of those OR you can try this trick...

Go to the Edit Store: screen as described above and click the Head/Foot: Global link. In the Category Tree Header: field insert the following...
<!--
...and in the Category Tree Footer: field insert...
-->

If you're familiar with HTML you'll know that what you have just done is turned the Category Tree into an HTML comment. And browsers don't display HTML comments.

That should do it.

Bubzeebub

4:09 pm on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Mt Biker...that did the trick!

There should be a category specifically for Miva or shopping carts because it seems like this is such an expansive topic.

Thanks again!

mt_biker

11:52 pm on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'd like to see that myself.