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Alternatives to Paypal

Can anyone suggest an alternative (UK) to Paypal?

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

8:07 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Forgive me if I am asking something that has been covered a 100 times previously but I don't really use ecommerce and know little about it.

I have a consultancy site which is used to generate clients. Last year I decided to start looking for some extra income by selling some reports and white papers, (a total of four items). Since this was not exactly a major ecommerce operation and I did not want to go the expense and trouble of setting up a merchant account I used Paypal. At the time I did not know if my products would sell but happily they did start to move albeit in small numbers.

Recently this has tailed off and I have sold nothing for a couple of months. I suspect that Paypal may be the problem. My site visitors are typically no-nonsense, industrial maintenance engineering people who may be getting frightened off by Paypal. Perhaps it's use is being perceived as being unprofessional in my line of business?

I am still not ready to move to ecommerce so can anyone suggest an alternative payment method? BTW I am based in the UK.

streetshirts

9:12 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nockex

They are like Paypal and they will allow you to accept cards off people who have not previously registered with them (if you are a business).

Leosghost

9:16 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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mals ecommerce..based in the UK

PCInk

10:25 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And FastPay - run by the Royal Bank of Scotland (Natwest).

BeeDeeDubbleU

10:53 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Fastpay looks very straightforward but as far as I can see it requires pre-registration. The stuff I sell is likely to be required by people who are seeking specific information. They probably want this in a hurry so any delays may stop them from buying.

What are the best ones that don't require you to pre-register?

PCInk

11:44 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nochex also requires pre-registration if the amount is over £90. I don't know what amounts you expect to process, but it is not that clear in the help when I read it last time.

BeeDeeDubbleU

12:23 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nochex also requires pre-registration if the amount is over £90. I don't know what amounts you expect to process, but it is not that clear in the help when I read it last time.

You said it! The thing that all of these packages seem to have in common is that it takes you ages to read through the information they present and even when you have done so you are still not confident that you have read it properly.

Why can't they highlight the stuff that they KNOW people will want to see. Is it some sort of policy they have?

Leosghost

4:16 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why can't they highlight the stuff that they KNOW people will want to see. Is it some sort of policy they have?

It usually has more to do with having a high tarif phone number you can call em on just to iron out the unclear bits ..so even if you don't go with the service they still made a buck ( or whatever ) on your call..( ever find an ISP with a free helpline? )..
Also when they tell you "not to worry" by phone and later it turns out that you should have "worried"..there is no "hard copy" of the advice given by "temporary staff etc" ....

guitarslinger

6:16 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The first commerical web site I did used the Pay Pal shopping cart so people could buy several items together. It really is quite simple and we have been happily taking up to 10 or more sales a day on this system at around £20 spend per customer.

In running this system for nearly a year I have had three people moan about their card not allowing them to pay straight away - no biggie, as they just posted us a cheque.

So in short - using pay pal doesn't seem to have been a big problem to us - having said that, I do not know how many sales we could do if we had mals commerce set up with world pay for normal credit card processing.

Cheers

Rich

chodges84

8:34 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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True, I originially used paypal, but was changed to Worldpay, as I'm sure it made me look unprofessional. I was getting 4-5 sales a day, now its more, but I have changed design and increase my advertising, so its not just Paypal probably.

I only ever had one e-mail that said I dont want to pay with paypal, and he sent a cheque.

Try a shopping cart (with paypal as the processor) that e-mails you the order before a customer pays as;

a: You can truly see if theya are put off by payapl cuz you won't get an e-mail form Paypal saying they have paid and

b:your own cart will look better and integrate better than the paypal one, and will keep thm on your site until the end.

Bonjour 4 now

wavebird23

12:37 am on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I believe iKobo works in the UK.

BeeDeeDubbleU

8:08 am on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had a look at iKobo and it looks very straightforward and promising. The only thing that I am concerned about is that their demo sites are cr*ppy and still in construction. Why do they use such poor sites to showcase their product?

I would be grateful if anyone from the UK or elsewhere could share their iKobo experiences and opinions.

renee

1:27 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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have you explored clickbank? they even have thousand of affiliates selling clckbank items. this might even help you increase your volume.

mgm_03

3:48 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try a shopping cart (with paypal as the processor) that e-mails you the order before a customer pays as;

a: You can truly see if theya are put off by payapl cuz you won't get an e-mail form Paypal saying they have paid and

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Hey!...that's a great idea. ..Didn't know that was possible.

Which carts do you know will do that?

chodges84

4:46 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

MOFcart is the one I use that does that, but I can think of others, cubecart for instance. Sticky me if you need any urls.

They send an order confirmation, and then your processor sends you a payment confirmation. If you get a lot of e-mail confirmations, but not so many payment confirmations, then you know something is wrong with the processor (paypal in this example)

I think a lot of carts may do this, things such as actinic incorporate 'callback' and don't send you an order e-mail unless you get paid.

And if you don't get paid then you'll never get laid.

kodaks

6:10 pm on Jul 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try YowCow, it doesnt require registration.

chodges84

8:08 pm on Jul 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also I got an e-mail from nochex ther other day telling me they now accept credit cards as well as debit cards, and that instead of the customer paying the 99p send money charge, merchants are charged 20p + 2.6p of the transaction.

SOunds like they are making them selves more paypal like. Maybe better merchant facilities will follow.

I had a quick look, apparently they will take the brunt of your chargebacks. Don't know if the £90, no account thing still applies though. And they have their own checkout.

EDIT: apparently it is now, 'Non-members can spend up to £100 without a nochex account'. SO they have increased that.