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Visits lasting only 1 or less

Why are visitors only staying for less than a minute or so

         

wintercornuk

2:40 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm almost ready to launch my online bookshop, just got some final delivery stuff to sort out, and I've started using adwords to promote it. I'm getting around 50-60 visitors per day and some stay and look around for 5 mins or so, but most seem only to stay for less than a minute.

I can see from my logs that people enter the site and then don't go anywhere, or only go to one page, then leave.

My questions are these -

Is this normal, do I need a greater ratio of browsers to purchases to effect a sale?

Is my site too slow (I think it might be, but that's just me)?

I'm not sure if I can post the url here, so I'll refrain from doing it unless advised.

Thanks.

hannamyluv

2:55 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our average time on our site is anywhere from 3 minutes to 5, depending on the time of year. We use adwords heavily.

You are going to get some people that leave quickly simply because you aren't what they are looking for. That could be a result of mistargeting or under-targeting your adwords.

Your pages may be slow. No matter what, if you think you can make your pages faster, you should do that. I read somewhere (though I can't remember where. Might have been Brett) that you lose (I think) 1% for every second over 9 seconds.

Having someone on the site for a long time might not be a good thing either. That can somtimes indicate that the visitor can't find what they want (like checkout).

Your best bet would be to figure your average time. No matter who you are, bad site or good site, you will get some people who leave quickly and some that surf around for a long time. If your average is really short, you have problems. If your average is really long, you have problems.

Sanenet

2:56 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also, maybe they just don't like the site? Stick me the URI if you want me to take a gander.

PatrickDeese

3:19 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Could it be that your Adwords campaign is matching too broadly?

For instance you sell "new blue widgets" so you are bidding on blue widgets in adwords, however people search for "used blue widgets" click on your advert, and then realizing you don't sell used merchandise, click back and try another site.

martyt

3:27 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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About 60% of visitors to my site are gone within 30 seconds. It's been that way fairly consistently for the last year so I consider it to be normal. I've tried re-designing the landing pages, etc. and it doesn't seem to make a lot of difference; I think a lot of people find my site while looking for something else. Hopefully some of them bookmark it and come back later.

I don't worry about those visitors who found me through the search engines -- it didn't cost me anything for them to come visit -- but I do keep a closer eye on how many conversions I'm getting from my various PPC campaigns.

About a month ago, I started using HitsLink, which is a hosted statistics and analysis service, and I've been thoroughly impressed with it. Previously, I could see how many clicks I was getting from the various PPC campaigns, but could never tie them to specific orders, *especially* if the customer bookmarked my site and came back later.

With HitsLink, every order is attributed to its original source and I can see how much money I'm making for each PPC campaign, which will help me focus my efforts -- I can either modify or remove the ones that aren't converting and spend more on the ones that are working. The nice thing is, if a visitor comes back a day or a week or a month later to place an order, it's still attributed to the original source. Apparently they drop some cookies on the visitor's browser that lets them track return visits, etc. - I've heard a few people suggest that they're a "spyware" company but I find their tactics to be completely harmless.

eWhisper

3:43 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For PPC campaigns, we really try to get the less than 1 minute visitors between 25-40% depending on the site/keywords involved. For some general keywords, 40% is good. For very specific keywords, you should be able to get it down to 15-20%. No matter what, there will be some people who just don't like the site or page and will close the page upon looking at it.

We then want at least 25% to be on the site for the average time it takes for a conversion (The conversion rate isn't 25%, just looking at average visitor times). Overall, setting a goal of 5-10 minute average visitor times I belive is reasonable for PPC campaigns.

There are two places to start to cut down on the very short visits.

The first is the keywords & ad itself. Targeting the keywords to specific offerings, and writing ads that describe your site will only entice people who are looking for something you can offer.

The second is landing pages. Don't send everyone to your homepage. Send them to the most appropriate page for that exact keyword.

It sounds like you might want to read through some posts in the AdWords, PPC, and Overture forums (AdWords is the most active) about targeting.

jweighell

7:42 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think this really is the nature of the way people browse the web. They are scanning through several sites looking for something specific. If they don't find what they're looking for shortly after arriving at your site, then they'll be gone.

Do you AdWords ads link to the related section of the site, or just to the homepage?

Like others have said, be careful not to make your keywords too broad as this will make your PPC advertising costly.

Web_Doctor

9:09 pm on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Using PPC requires understanding how the keywords you bid for associate with your site. As jweighell points out you want to ensure your adwords point directly to the page the keyword affects.

For instance, you may be selling an widgets of various colors. If someone enters the phrase yellow widget and your come up in the listings they don't want go to the home page or a page about blue widgets. They asked for yellow and that's what they want.

It may, also, be the case that your page doesn't promote your yellow widget as well as it might. Many top PPC subscribers test landing pages to determine which elements they need to tweak to get the best results. This may be an overwhelming task for a small business, but you can do it just the same.

But the point is if people ask for yellow widgets they want to see yellow widgets.

wintercornuk

4:32 pm on May 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've now linked the adwords to each relevant section, let's see how this does.

jamie

5:18 pm on Jun 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it might also be AOL surfers, who (AFAIK) are assigned up to 8 dynamic IP addresses while they surf.

as I understand it, this means one IP address is used to download the html content, another for this image, another for that image, another for the css file, etc, etc.

some (most?) log trackers will see this person as entering and leaving the site straight away, as his IP changes so quickly. makes a bit of a joke of stats analysis

i don't understand the actual technicalities behind it, just enough to grasp the impact of it :)

(the tracking and logging forum which has some excellent posts on this)