how to make my site scrollable

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how to make my site scrollable

framed site collapses when shown on too small a screen, collapses

pjhendriks

9:58 am on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am looking for a solution to the following problem:

I have designed my page for 1024x768 screen sizes. However, I am teaching a class of elderlies on computers with screensize 800 x 600. I would like to show them my page. When i do so however, the complete structure of the site is destroyed.

See: <Sorry, no personal URLs. See TOS [webmasterworld.com]>

Who is there, kind enough to help me out? What do i have to do to make my full page scrollable within a smaller screen?

[edited by: tedster at 4:24 pm (utc) on Mar. 27, 2004]

tedster

4:40 pm on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

You say this is a framed site. My first thought is have you ALLOWED scrolling in the various frames, or are you saying scrolling="no" for every one.

Second, your frameset document's rows= and cols= attributes may be requiring too many pixels in total.

Another possibility: one of your frames may have a "*" in the frameset, but the document that loads has content that is forcing that frame to be too wide for the screen.

R1chard

4:10 pm on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

The way I see it, all pages that are too big for the screen should have scrollbars unless they are told not to...

But anyway, how about not designing for a fixed resolution?

pjhendriks

5:29 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thx for the response.

R1chard:
fixed solution.... meaning that I set width etc in fixed numbers instead of percentages and *?

pjhendriks

5:30 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

REsolution sorry

tedster

7:49 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

How about posting just the frameset section of your inde page (please remove any evidence of your specific domain) so we can see what knid of layout you are working with.

pjhendriks

3:46 am on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

sorry, was out of town for a few days.

tedster

4:18 am on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Looks like you are using frames to control a layout -- and you probably would get better results using a table for at least most of that. Perhaps you would use an iframe or two in the spots where you really need scrollable content in part of the layout.

The thing is, a frameset will ONLY fill the available screen real estate. If there is not enough space, the internal frames will either truncate or scroll locally -- but the frameset itself will not scroll. It wasn't created to do that.

Because your document is already so complex, I hesitate to suggest one more possible approach. But because it is likely the quickest fix -- here goes.

Nest all of that layout inside yet another frameset with rows="0,*" It's the * frame where your entire frameset goes. That should take the whole thing and give it a set of scrollbars, inside the regular browser scrollbars. Not elegant, but perhaps workable.

pjhendriks

5:00 am on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I tried the easiest way..:)

I added
<frameset rows="0,*">
at the very top
and
</frameset>
at the very bottom,
but no effect, other than losing my "onder.htm" frame.

Do i have to add a 'dummy" frame for the rows=0 part perhaps?

Bonusbana

11:56 am on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Use tables instead of frames and give the content cell a percented width, so it nicely shrinks to whatever screen resolution the user has. A good rule is to always design so that it is possible for 800x600 users to view the content.

Or try using CSS columns, but that could be a big step for you.

R1chard

6:25 pm on Apr 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well, by "not designing for a fixed resolution" I meant having a page that adapts to any resolution. This is easier than it sounds.

100 pixels is huge on some machines and unreadably small on others... Since you'll never be able to guarantee what monitor/hardware/settings the user may have, it's much safer to have a page that doesn't require a certain size.