Forms and NN 4.x?

Submit button doesn't show

[dickbaker]

I've been trying to work out a number of bugs that cause my ASP-driven site to not work in NN 4.7.

I'm now down to the issue of forms and the "submit" button. I can get the textfields to show, but not the Submit button.

Is there a different way to handle forms so that they'll work with NN 4.x?

Here's a snippet of the code:

<p class="my_css">Please log in using your username and password. (If you've forgotten
your username or password, contact us by clicking the &quot;Contact&quot;
link on the left. Include
the name of your shop, your name, and your shop's phone number).</p>
<form name="form1" method="POST" action="<%=MM_LoginAction%>">
<p>Username:
<input name="username" type="text">
</p>

<p>Password:
<input type="password" name="pass">
</p>

<p>
<input type="submit" name="Submit" value="Submit">
</p>
</form>

Thanks for any replies

[isitreal]

I ran your code exactly as posted in NS 4x, and it worked fine, I think you have some other problem on the page, it's not an ASP thing, maybe you have the form in a container of fixed height, but NS 4 treats forms very sloppily, it wants more room for them than other browsers, but there's nothing wrong with your form code, it's probably the container.

[dickbaker]

Thanks, isitreal. I had the form within a table which was nested in a layer. I got rid of the table, but that didn't do it entirely. When I changed the <p> tags to <br>'s, everything worked fine.

I hate Netscape.

[isitreal]

We all hate netscape, when I make a site support that browser it usually almost doubles my development time, if I want it to actually work, I finally have stopped doing it, now I just deliver displayable content to netscape and don't worry about anything else, it's only 1% or less of users now, and if you try going to any major website with NS 4 you'll get error after error, mostly javascript stuff, I don't think many people are really supporting it anymore, I'm seeing the numbers plummet in the last 8 months to almost nothing finally, I think it's because large sites finally stopped really supporting it, or are stopping, thus forcing those people to finally upgrade.

[isitreal]

To: Hartlandcat:

read the above again please, you will notice that even there I am talking about Netscape 4, which should have been obvious if you had read it first, plus the subject of the thread itself, which is about netscape 4x, so the netscape being discussed here is of course netscape 4x. I don't know how I can make this more obvious.

[TheDoctor]

I think it's because large sites finally stopped really supporting it

It's nothing to do with this. It's because of the hardware replacement cycle. Most people stay with the browser that's installed on their machine when they get it. Over the couple of years they've been replacing the PCs that came with NN4 installed.

My figures show the usage of NN4 by my visitors has fallen from 16% in January 2002 to less than 1% now.

[isitreal]

TheDoctor:

Yes, I think you have that right, I'm seeing the same thing, NS 4 use was hovering at 2-5% for much longer than I thought it would, then suddenly this year I started seeing it drop to under 1%, it looks like those last windows 95 boxes are finally getting updated, thankfully, I thought ns 4 would be gone 2 years ago, couldn't figure out what was making it stay, but I do suspect that one reason some of these last boxes are getting replaced is that the users are starting to get so many javascript errors, crashing sites, etc, that they simply can't be used to access websites any longer, which is a good thing.

[hartlandcat]

isitreal -- I don't think it was necessary to write that message to me on the public forums. I had the courtesy to contact you via sticky mail. It would be nice if you could do the same.