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2:04 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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With my experience in this forum, from what I've seen, people seem to hate IE. I've heard a lot of crticism's about it over here at WebmasterWorld.
People saying things like:
"IE maybe the most popular browser, but its the second worst"
"I'm done with IE!"
"How many times is this gonna crash!"
and so many others.
After all this, how many of you guys still use IE?

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2:07 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Still use IE as my primary browser, but within the Avant Browser shell. Opera and Phoenix are also installed for checking sites every now and again.
2:20 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I haven't used IE as my primary browser since about November 2002. I first installed Opera 6.0 in October 2002 and was very impressed, apart from the fact that it couldn't display an slideshow that I'd created (using proprietary DHTML -- I didn't realise this at the time) properly (yes, I blamed Opera, but I didn't know any better). I installed Netscape a few weeks later and hated it at first, but then I sort of fell in love with it. I used Netscape 7 as my primary browser for about a year on Windows XP and Mac OS 9, but since switching to Mac OS X as my primary platform a few weeks ago, I've been using Safari (but now I've managed to crash my Mac's hard drive, so I'm back with Netscape again now).

I love Netscape, and I still use it over Mozilla (even though I probably officially shouldn't). However, I don't generally recommened Netscape to people (usually Opera or Mozilla instead) for one simple reason: Everyboddy hates you.

2:21 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yep, I still use it as my primary browser, partially because it is what I am used to. Although I must admit Opera is beginning to convert me...
2:24 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok here we go, another IE bashing post. Haven't we have enough of these?

I use IE without incident. I also use Mozilla

I also use it for FTP.

People like to whine and complain. Makes them feel important.

2:34 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes txbakers, we all like to wine and complain. Especially me, since I'm a fan of both Netscape and Apple. A lot of websites I've noticed tend to wine about Netscape, simply because the person that "designed" them is unable to create a page without making numorous trivial errors. I've seen statements on people's websites like "Netscape is the devil" and "Netscape users are evil" and other such messages that basically say "Netscape users are NOT welcome at my site".

As I said a few minutes ago, I've found one definate drawback to being a Netscape user:
Everyboddy hates you.

2:45 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm not "bashing IE" as you say txbakers, I actually like IE, which people argue with me about and anyway, whats the big deal? its only a web browser, I was only counting the number of IE bashers here at WebmasterWorld ;)

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i love ie and have for years. i use myIE2 as my front end. but for various reasons, i also have mozilla, opera, ns7 and lynx installed. i also have netscape 4.7 for amusement purposes.
3:48 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Ok here we go, another IE bashing post. Haven't we have enough of these?

Apparently not :(

3:57 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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use IE6 for primary browser
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It's all very well those of you who say that you love IE, but you're not actually explaining exactly why you believe IE to be superior to other browsers.

I love Netscape because of the throbber. Seriously! ^_^ Okay, so I love "Netscape/Mozilla" (Gecko browsers) because it has the most complete support for the CSS specification than any other browser, because it has a built in popup blocker, because it has tabbed browsing and because it's secure (I feel safe when doing online shopping).

I also love Safari because of the way it makes text look beautiful, because it has tabbed browsing and a built in popup blocker, because of it's excellent support for CSS and other standards (although I realise that this support is not quite as complete Gecko's) and because of its speed. And as an added bonus... it's made by Apple! ^_^

4:41 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I didn't have the slightest clue at first that anyone here was bashing IE, but now I'm sitting here trying to think up things I don't like about it and I can only think of two.

It has a tendency to pick up browser cooties, and it's got two speeds - slow and back up. Other than that I've always loved it and still do, and I think about 95% of the surfing public does too so us IE fans have lots of company.

4:46 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm an MS fan and probably will be till the day I pass away. I've been using IE since 1995 as it was the only browser on my system at the time. Since then it has grown on me.

Since I run an MS OS, I of course get IE bundled in the package. I use IE because over 90% of the surfing population use IE. I have to be able to see what the majority of my visitors are seeing.

I also use Opera, Mozilla, Netscape and a few other lesser known browsers. I use these mainly for testing purposes to make sure that my IE is not showing me something that the others aren't.

Yes, it does have its faults. But, you eventually figure out ways around those faults. Just like any program, there are pros and cons.

For those of you switching away from IE, just be sure to keep a recent copy somewhere so that you can test your sites in the majority browser. Just because it looks fine in Opera or Mozilla, that doesn't mean IE is going to display it the same way! ;)

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I switched from IE because my installation is corrupted and I'm too lazy to figure out why. I did try, but gave up after about half an hour and downloaded Opera. I'm hopelessly in love with Opera now, but I do switch to one of my co-workers computers occasionally when I'm dealing with a site that isn't Opera friendly.
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I used IE3 for almost a year when it first came out. I still think ie3 was the best ms program I ever used. Then came IE4 and it crashed all over all the time. So, I went back to Opera and haven't changed since.

Not that ie isn't a good program, just that I can't risk any more data to the lack of ms security.

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IE is not bad, it's just there are better programs available.
I use IE as secondary browser and as notification system for Google and Alexa.
5:15 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Its neither that I love nor hate IE, but rather I prefer it cause its my default browser and it does everything I expect it to do. When you get a virus from IE, I don't really think about from whence it came. I'm only interested in removing it. Thus, I don't really associate the virus with IE or any other MS program which leads me to not hate or dislike IE in any way.
I feel the same about the browser wars as I do about the pop wars. I prefer Coke to Pepsi but I'll drink either. I largely drink Coke cause its what the machines in the building at work dispense. But I'd still drink pop if they only dispensed Pepsi instead.
5:32 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I use IE sometimes because:

1. Web sites that have information I want are coded so that only IE will display them properly.

2. I must test my own code in whatever browser that has the widest user base.

I don't like using IE because:

1. It's tied to the Windows OS too tightly. If the browser crashes, it can take down or freeze my entire system too easily, requiring me to reboot and relaunch any other apps I was using, loosing work.

2. It is sluggish by comparison with Opera, Firebird, Netscape. I once wrote that the switch to Opera was like getting an extra hour of productivity handed to me every day

3. The preference settings are obtusely worded and awkward to use.

4. If I'm exploring a rough web neighborhood, there are too many well known browser exploits for IE.

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I think about 95% of the surfing public does too so us IE fans have lots of company.

To be honest, amongst the people that know what they're talking about with browsers (i.e. web developers), it's about a 50/50 pro-IE/anti-IE division.
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IE6 with windows 2000 pro = bullet proof.
Don't remember the last time my computer crashed or froze.
8:19 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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To be honest, amongst the people that know what they're talking about with browsers (i.e. web developers), it's about a 50/50 pro-IE/anti-IE division.

I'm not sure what version of math you are learning, but a simple poll of this thread, with 20 previous posts yields 10 in favor of IE, 4 against, and 6 non-committal or duplicates.

That seems a bit more like 70/30 in favor of IE "amongst the people that know" based on this thread that actually asked the question.

And the responders to this thread include several moderators, the owner of the board, and an administrator or two. I would say that these people are "amongst the people that know".

Just because you have a personal bias against all things MS, don't skew the facts.

8:46 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I almost never get this heavy handed, but this horse has been flogged to near-death.

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