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How can the spammers tell the difference?

after todays European ruling

         

smokeyb

12:09 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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it's good news: todays ruling on European spam being illegal. But on the news it said that this only applies to home computers and not company's. How can a spammer tell the difference from an email address? I know that TV companies aren't that computer literate, so they may just have got it wrong (or at least the interpretation) but am I missing something?

DrDoc

4:52 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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...and how would you make sure that my company isn't run from my home? :)

jim_w

6:36 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The US just passed a law and a couple of states have as well. But they can pass all the laws they want and it won’t do any good. If the SPAM is coming from somewhere overseas, there are not any provisions to enforce it.

In the US, we have signed treaties with some countries that say that they will honor our copyright and patent laws, but I don’t believe it covered SPAM, a concept that came after the signing of the treaties.

victor

9:18 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How can a spammer tell the difference from an email address?

One easy way would be to keep a careful record of how many times they have been prosecuted for spamming that address.

Amy number above zero would strongly indicate that the address was, at one time at least, a home email address.

For any other address -- those with a current track record of zero prosecutions, they should take active steps to ensure that the address does want their spams. Being home or corporate should make no difference in this regard.

If they can find no record across their great chain of affliates and sellers-on of email addresses that the address has opted-in, they should act prudently and not spam it.

If an affiliate (or addresss list seller) vouches that the address is opted-in, then the spammer should ensure that that party indemnifies them for any legal consequences if the address is not an acceptable spam destination.

Very simple, really.

smokeyb

11:07 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Personally, I think that any fines they incure, should be paid directly to the person they spammed. Can you imagine it? People like me, setting up email addresses that look corporate but are actually personal, just to get their money (in a devious way). What a complete turn of the table eh! I swear it would be the best fun I could have, since I discovered drugs!

chris_f

11:09 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> How can a spammer tell the difference from an email address?

Could it be that the ruling is trying to stop spam going to email service providers and isp rather that everyday registered domains?

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IeuanJ

4:07 pm on Dec 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It is a fact that most spam originates from Hong Kong, Singapore and Florida. Anything America can do to kill off the Florida spammers will greatly ease the problem.

One easy way would be to keep a careful record of how many times they have been prosecuted for spamming that address.

Amy number above zero would strongly indicate that the address was, at one time at least, a home email address.

For any other address -- those with a current track record of zero prosecutions, they should take active steps to ensure that the address does want their spams. Being home or corporate should make no difference in this regard.

So prosecution would record the addresses? unlikely I think, and who will release them to the spammers to check against?

Lets face it, unsolicited mail should be made illegal in any shape or form.

The steps they should take to make sure that the address does want their span are :

a) Leave our inboxes alone until we specifically sign up for you and OPT IN.
b) advertise their span on public sites so those who want it can OPT IN for it.
c) see rule a) again for clarification.