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grandpa

9:18 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nice... I've just finished validating the retail side of my site, and each page except the index proudly the W3C logo at the bottom of the page. Clicking this logo brings up the W3C Markup Validation Page, and on this page is a link back to the validated page.

My question is: I assume this markup validation page is dynamically generated. But if it is not, then I have a decent inbound link to my site. True or not?

Krapulator

7:06 am on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not.

Their robots.txt blocks that particular directory.

g1smd

9:10 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Value of W3C logo

It shows some web-savvy users that you know what you are doing.

Mohamed_E

10:59 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It gives W3C.org a link from each of your pages. No doubt that is why they thought up this gimmick.

It also shows that you know how to write valid HTML (for the three surfers who care about that).

It shows some web-savvy users that you know what you are doing.

Not really. It says absolutely nothing about whether the content of your site is worth anyone's time. Ultimately, of cousre, that is the only thing that really matters.

grandpa

12:34 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It shows some web-savvy users that you know what you are doing.

..and it gives me a small sense of accomplishment.

It says absolutely nothing about whether the content of your site is worth anyone's time.

That is reflected in sales, at least IMO.

shasan

1:59 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've always questioned the point of validation itself. I used to think validation was when everything showed up nice and pretty on IE5.5+ :>

I think it just gives w3c something to do :)

D_Blackwell

2:07 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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---No doubt that is why they thought up this gimmick.---

Sure, they benefit - but standards are not a gimmick.

---for the three surfers who care about that---

More and more clients care.

The wild wild west both contributes to and hinders "progress".

claus

2:36 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> the point of validation itself

There's no point in validation. If you just make sure you write valid code, you don't need to validate it. Otoh, validation is a nice and easy way to make sure that you do what you think you are doing. And you really don't need to put the W3C logo on your pages if you don't want to.

/claus

grandpa

10:06 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you just make sure you write valid code, you don't need to validate it.

There's a good point. But I didn't write any of the code on this site, I inherited it. Would you believe the number of missing tags if I told you? :) I'll start with 100, every page was missing </html>. Another couple of dozen missing </p> per page, missing </td></tr> and misplaced </center> on every single page. I shudder to think how many customers were lost because these pages didn't render properly.

validation is a nice and easy way to make sure that you do what you think you are doing.

It does make the job easier, especially as I tend to fudge a little and let the validator find the problems, then I just go fix them. Of course, not until I've at least made a good first effort to fix what I know is wrong.

And you really don't need to put the W3C logo on your pages if you don't want to.

Of course not. Originally I thought, maybe hoped that I had added some decent inbound links to my site - thus this thread. Since that isn't the case, and I've already tagged 50 or so pages - they are going to stay tagged.

The remainder of the site, the other 50 or so pages will be completely re-written with CSS, all the tables are coming out! I've already made a good start on the first of those pages, and it may take another week to get it 'just right'.
The few pages I coded a decade ago didn't prepare me for the task at hand, so I'm going thru a learning curve. But when I'm finished, those pages should be nothing but good spider food, decent code (maybe a little top heavy on the CSS), and I plan to tag them too. One reason: I can look at the site and see which pages still need work, and which ones don't. That's easier for me since my desk is slightly smaller than my keyboard and there's no place to keep notes around here. I also tend to believe more than a few of my customers will take notice, and perhaps in some small way they might realize we're doing something nice. We might even win a few NS customers back.

korkus2000

1:53 pm on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Really the logo is not worth much. It is only going to make a point if your audience is looking at your web skills. Its good for a web designer site or a resume. I don't think it matters at all to a book store. Validation is important, but not really to the user, just the user agent.