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Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (Glendale)

From the ashes of Phoenix 0.5 rises Firebird 0.6

         

nativenewyorker

9:57 am on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The new Mozilla Firebird 0.6 browser is out.

Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (Glendale) [mozilla.org]

Ted

jeremy goodrich

3:26 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hm, I'm still on the old phoenix...any great reason to upgrade?

nativenewyorker

4:38 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Jeremy,

  • New default theme
  • Redesigned Preferences window
  • Improved Privacy Options
  • Improved Bookmarks
  • Talkback enabled
  • Automatic Image Resizing
  • Smooth Scrolling
  • Access to more preferences
  • Profile Chrome
  • Mac OS X
  • Lots of bug fixes

    To me, their best reason to upgrade to Firebird is the elimination of lots of bugs.

    Ted

  • msr986

    4:58 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    I downloaded Firebird a couple of days ago. It has been running great! I like the new theme much better than the old. It won't be a disappointment to upgrade. This is high praise coming from someone who actually likes IE. I am beginning to believe that Mozilla can actually replace IE as a day to day browser.

    jeremy goodrich

    5:08 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    Ok, now that I have downloaded it -> must say, great idea!

    The roll over effect on the links in my nav bar makes it a bit more user friendly.

    And it automatically imported everything for me :) which is just perfect.

    Thanks for giving me the list of features, I've been sold.

    DrOliver

    7:27 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    From the release notes:

    Automatic Image Resizing
    With this feature, Mozilla Firebird shrinks any image that is bigger than the window to make the whole image visible. When this is done, the cursor over the image changes to tell you that if you click, the image is restored to full size. Instructions on how to disable this feature can be found here.

    Disable this on the client side goes like that:

    // Turn off Automatic Image Resizing:
    user_pref("browser.enable_automatic_image_resizing", false);

    simply put this in the user.js file.

    But, as with automatic image resizing in IE, which can be disabled with a meta tag, is there a way to disable it for Mozilla Firebird too or will Firebird react on MS meta tag too?

    DrOliver

    7:30 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    Just realized this was my post #100. :-)

    It's my round...

    drbrain

    10:30 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    DrOliver: or type 'about:config' into the URLbar, go down to the prefs you want to toggle, and change them yourself. Make sure you know what the prefs all mean of course, while its difficult to do something completely damaging, it is still possbile.

    mozopera

    12:00 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    But, as with automatic image resizing in IE, which can be disabled with a meta tag,

    Hmm, interesting. What's the meta tag that disables automatic image resizing in IE?

    littleman

    1:04 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)



    Seems like a nice browser. But I am wondering about the plans to thin it out. Originally Phoenix was conceived as a Mozilla-light project.

    Is Firebird on the path to greater bloat?

    Seems to me that all the Mozilla derivatives are getting fatter. Skipstone is about where Galeon was about 2 years ago, and Galeon snapshot takes up more memory and has less features than the pre 1.2.x versions.

    Firebird is a nice browser, but it isn't small.

    jeremy goodrich

    1:48 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    Yes, the download is a bit bigger. :)

    But compared to IE - it's nothing.

    msr986

    2:02 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    From the release notes for Phoneix 0.4:

    You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's {7MB; 9MB}! I laugh at your silly lies!

    Take it easy, sport. Phoenix is already 35% smaller than Mozilla. It's also worth noting that we're still carrying the weight of many Mozilla files that we've replaced. For example, we still build and ship with Mozilla's form manager, even though we now have Satchel, its lighter replacement. Phoenix also still contains a lot of Mozilla's chrome (front end) files, even though it has its own. Heck, it still has files used solely for Mozilla mail. We're still trimming the fat and we expect to be able to hit something near 6 MB (Windows) and 7-8MB (Linux) before we're done.

    They may trim about a meg off of the download, however this statement is not in the release notes for 0.5 or 0.6.

    outrun

    2:22 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    IMO this a the best release so far, its small, and a lot of the bugs I used to cringe about are gone.

    regards,
    Mark.

    DrOliver

    6:16 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    Hmm, interesting. What's the meta tag that disables automatic image resizing in IE?

    I might be wrong here:


    <meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no">

    Does this only stop the image toolbar from appearing while hovering or does it also stop the images from automatic resizing?

    I know it's a user setting. This comes from microsoft.com:
    "Automatic Image Resizing is turned on by default. But you can turn it on and off by using the Advanced tab on the Internet Options dialog box."

    But then also:
    "Automatic Image Resizing is turned on by default. It works only when you navigate directly to pictures. Internet Explorer cannot resize pictures that are embedded within HTML pages."

    Well, this seems to be enough for an own thread. Well, so far, I only hope that automatic image resizing won't be used for pictures embedded in HTML, at least not by default.

    WibbleWobble

    9:23 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    Image resizing in Firebird only applies to actual images, and not markup. If you're viewing an .htm page, then it will display as normal. If you're viewing a .jpg directly, and it is larger than the viewport, then it will shrink it.