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Irish student programs new 6x faster browser

does anyone really think this is for real?

         

amznVibe

3:31 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A few news sites and even slashdot is printing this but its
really hard to believe and sounds downright goofy to me.

I'm almost ashamed to admit I went to college for journalism.

[taipeitimes.com...]

[online.ie...]

[newsobserver.com...]

heini

3:35 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hehe - watch out Opera!

Now, really it would be interesting to learn where this acceleration should come from.

korkus2000

3:37 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I didn't see anywhere about how they did the benchmark. Did they have a control group, was it over a modem or local? A lot of that stuff could be weighted towards the experiment.

The_Warden

4:16 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I find this hard to believe but I suppose it's not impossible either. Saying that though, until we can see the browser and test it ourselves it's nothing more then vaporware in my opinion. We all know that you can never believe the media 100%. Heck even reading all those three links can prove the differences reported by the media.

I did a search on google and was not able to locate the browser or the author. So who knows... time will tell. If it's that good of a browser it will start appearing on the net for download.

BTW, according to the news links the test was done on a 56k dial-up line.

BlobFisk

5:00 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There has been quite a bit written about this by Irish Tech journalists, and interviews published with the Student in question. One publication printed that he had written over 1.5million lines of code in 18 months - that's over 2000 lines of clean code per day!

He has been quite tight lipped about what exactly he has done to allow his browser to out class other browsers by a factor of 4/5, but speculation is that he's doing some kind of buffering/read-ahead to optimise the pipe.

There are many people working in the business in Ireland that are very skeptical about the claims made, but there is no detracting from the fact that this 16 year old is a very clever and talent young person.

It's definitely a "watch this space" thing!

Duckula

6:08 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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is said to least quadruple surfing speeds

Prefetch. Enough said.

"At seven times it actually crashes so I have limited it to six."

That doesn't makes sense. An application usually doesn't crash by increasing some throughput, unless threading races are involved. But he still has to get the information from some place... see above.

"It is the first Internet browser in the world to actually incorporate a DVD sidebar. So you can watch a DVD movie in whatever screen size you want and browse the Internet at the same time"

I'm speechless. He's gloating over creeping featuritis!

My resolution: it's a fluffy duck :)

Brett_Tabke

6:16 pm on Jan 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like cold fusion to me.

copongcopong

12:34 am on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hmmm ... it could have a sort of automatic multiple connection to http .. like some multiple connection download accelerators and managers out there.

screen shot, beta version to test and more publicity could convince me though. :)

at this time ... i'll just wait and see, its a non-broadband internet connection dream!

Duckula

3:31 am on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just look at what [devel-home.kde.org] that fellow made me try.

That is how to roll your own web browser in fifteen minutes using kparts. Maybe in the week I'll think about adding the 6x performance. Or maybe not :)

BlobFisk

9:51 am on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some more information on XWEBS can be found here [radio.weblogs.com], where the author talk to one of MIT Media Lab Europe's researchers who did some testing on the browser.

stripes

6:14 pm on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A group of Irish techies (Fergal Byrne of Adnet, Ralph Averbuch of ElectricNews, and Michael Kennedy from EastBT Services) talked with Adnan. Few think the 16-yr-old wrote the browser from scratch.

I've extracted some info from the Irish Open Mailing List [topgold.com] to my weblog.

"I'd be very surprised if he wrote the whole thing from scratch - he'd definitely be an idiot in that case. It looked like a browser designed to look like an XBox - all luminous green buttons and metallic shading.

"I went into enough detail with the chap to establish what the speedup must involve (proxy servers, maybe an alternative streaming protocol, and maybe a rescheduling of the bits to download).

"There may well be something novel in what the kid is doing but I can't say as he was somewhat reluctant to explain it to me. He doesn't appear to have the depth of understanding of communications engineering which I would expect from some of the people working in the field (why should he?), so I'd be worried about some of the comments I've read regarding his 'breakthroughs'.

"The guy is not a fraud. He has built or assembled a piece of software which demonstrably improves on the market leader for a set of high-traffic websites over a certain connection setup, and that is no mean feat for a 16 year-old. He displays insufficient understanding of the technical details and sufficient vagueness about what he's doing to indicate that he's enjoying the accolades and doesn't feel the need to modestly pop the happy-clappies' bubbles.

"As far as tech papers are concerned, he is keeping some of the work secret until further notice. I asked him if he wanted to be famous, and when he said yes I suggested he donate his technology to an Open Source browser project such as Mozilla. If he does this we'll eventually see what he's done.

"As a footnote, I agree with Karlin Lillington. The media has not really hyped this, and I don't think Adnan was actively hyping it up (merely being mysterious and kinda letting it happen). I've just had a look at some of the comments, and you'd have to say it's a snowballing begrudgery phenomenon from hell (some of the one-liners are spotless though)."

BlobFisk

10:17 am on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Stripes! Check out Marcia's excellent WebmasterWorld Welcome and Guide to the Basics [webmasterworld.com].

There has been rumours of Eircom (on Open) and other big Irish companies buying the browser from him - was this more media hype or is there some truth to it?

stripes

10:01 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would be surprised if eircom buy the browser because it's untested in many plug-in modes. As a standalone box for slapped alongside a DSL router, it might work. Personally, I wish the thing was open to peer review. I get a lot of hits for info requests and when I track them backwards, they normally are part of threaded discussions suggesting XWEBS is a hoax.

copongcopong

9:52 pm on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Another news about this from Wired.

[wired.com...]