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Netscape 3 wanted

... for testing of websites

         

troels nybo nielsen

9:41 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Where do I find one?

jdMorgan

9:47 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Netscape 3.x [wp.netscape.com]

Jim

troels nybo nielsen

9:54 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks to both of you.

txbakers

10:36 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Um, why? Netscape 4.X is pretty much obsolete so that guarantees that Netscape 3 is even more obsolete. Unless you have a specific purpose - a company still using W95 and NN3 for instance, I wouldn't waste my precious time pandering to the two or three people still using NN 3.

choster

10:38 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Why not? I view all my pages in Netscape 0.9 beta, Cello 2.0, and Spyglass Mosaic for fun, also because sometimes the primitive older layout shows how you can improve the layout for modern browsers.

txbakers

10:43 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I view all my pages in Netscape 0.9 beta, Cello 2.0, and Spyglass Mosaic for fun

I can think of about 12 maybe 14 other things to do for fun than worry about antique software.

I'm not criticizing anyone's desire to test in obsolete software, but I spend my time looking forward, not worrying about the past. I finally broke with NN 4.7 and informed my customers that we will no longer support that browser. Like Pumbaa says, "You have to put your past in your behind".

Hakuna Matata.

Sinner_G

7:21 am on Oct 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Um, why? Netscape 4.X is pretty much obsolete so that guarantees that Netscape 3 is even more obsolete.

I had someone once (2 months ago) visiting my site with NS 2 and complaining he/she didn't get a nice presentation...

txbakers

2:01 pm on Oct 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I had someone once (2 months ago) visiting my site with NS 2 and complaining he/she didn't get a nice presentation...

I would have written the person back and asked him what he expected. If a person rents a DVD and plays it on their under counter black and white TV they won't get a nice presentation either. Gas lamps and candles still give light, and if a person chooses to use those to read, it's their eyes that will hurt.

Technology moves forward, and those that choose not to keep up won't get nice presentations.

Don't cry for them Argentina.

g1smd

10:57 pm on Oct 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Another Browser Archive: [sillydog.org...]

[Umm. I know of some people still using 486DX100, Windows 3.11, and Netscape Gold]

And, no, they cannot afford to upgrade, unless they go without food for a couple of months.

digitalghost

11:02 pm on Oct 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>[Umm. I know of some people still using 486DX100, Windows 3.11, and Netscape Gold]

And, no, they cannot afford to upgrade, unless they go without food for a couple of months.

Umm, yeah, but can they afford to make online purchases? I understand that there are educational sites but how many e-com sites are targeting people using a 486DX 100? At some point it gets a bit silly to make sure EVERYONE can view a site.

I'll go out of my way to make sure a site is accessible but I don't think losing all those 486 surfers will have any impact on the profit margin.

txbakers

12:16 am on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't think losing all those 486 surfers will have any impact on the profit margin.

I don't either. I think it costs more to try to maintain a site for antique browsers than the potential for revenue from it.

There will always people who prefer to shop at Dollar General as opposed to Neiman Marcus.

troels nybo nielsen

4:34 am on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> Um, why?

None of my websites are commercial and I do not expect any of them to be. I spend time on those websites because I like to. And I want to know how they look in the oldest browsers that are used by my visitors. Then my decisions about design can be taken from a more qualified point of view. Any single visitor _might_ be of importance for my purposes. If I have to loose visitors that use old browsers, it should not happen out of my ignorance, but because I take a qualified decision.

tedster

8:27 am on Oct 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well said. And the easiest way I know to accommodate all browsers is to write validated HTML or XHTML that uses Cascading Stylesheets for formatting. Browsers that don't support stylesheets still get very straightforward and readable text.

In fact, this is how many sites are now dealing with Netscape 4.x (that is, not even serving it a stylesheet), to say nothing of earlier browser versions.