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What type of sites do WebmasterWorld users like?

What makes a site easy to use and navigate?

         

alex_cross

8:23 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My business is an Ecommerce business and I would like to see what other sites WebmasterWorld users think are catchy and designed well, with less clicks and easy navigation in mind.

stlouislouis

8:49 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm in a similar situation. Please sticky mail me, too!

Thanks,

Louis

mivox

9:10 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I would probably be most helpful to everyone on the board if everyone could share features they like to see in ecommerce sites, instead of just URL swapping behind the scenes... asking people to send stickymail takes all the good content off the board, and doesn't provide much content for other members to enjoy and learn from.

How about if people share a few general usability and navigation fetures they really like to see in an ecommerce site? I personally like to have some way of navigating by product cateogry... I'm fond of drop-down navigation menus for that.

alex_cross

9:28 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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So, I could say that I like the tabs on Barnesand Nobles without it being against WebmasterWorld policy?

Marcia

9:28 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Actually, according to our TOS we don't do site reviews at all, and that kind of has to extend, for the most part, to reviews of other sites also, since those of us who design dynamite sites that look great, rank high and convert well would be much too tempted to post URLs for our own sites. :)

Sorry, I just couldn't resist kidding around a little, but it can happen - so we do try to keep discussions general, in addition to which keeping it out on the board gets varied input and many of us can benefit from the discussion at the same time.

>I'm in a similar situation

Actually, so am I this very day, Louis! I'm in the process of doing up a couple of new sites, and every time it's good to re-think what makes a good site. I'll really enjoy a discussion on what makes a good ecommerce site.

alex_cross

10:19 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am not asking for someone to look at my design but to Sticky mail me what it is that they find useful and like.

mivox

10:45 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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All I'm saying is that it would be more helpful to the entire WebmasterWorld community if people posted ideas on the board rather than just having a 'behind the scenes' URL exchange.

Having an enitre thread that consists of nothing more than "Sticky me please," "sticky me too," "I feel left out, can you sticky me also," etc., etc., ad infinitum is kind of a waste of a public community board, because no information is being exchanged publically.

If people have favorite site features they'd like to share, please do share them... just do us all the service of sharing them on the board where everyone can benefit.

alex_cross

11:11 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well, what do the WebmasterWorld readers like?

Vanessa

11:19 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Speaking as a frequent shopper as much as a developer:
* For a site where you expect users to purchase a number of items, I think it is important to have a nice 'shopping cart' interface, that is easy for them to pull up, check purchases, add, delete, recalculate etc. It also must be easily accessible from the browsing view. I like to see my shopping cart while I am browsing. (e.g. The Getty One site)
The other obvious thing is to have an attractive logical catalogue (e.g. Amazon, lush.com.au, woolworths.com.au)
The other thing I hate on ecommerce sites is when they put a whole lot of other guff on their front page - careers, about the company, news etc - this is important to have somewhere but if the purpose of your site is to sell, than that is what should be first and foremost. It is amazing on how many ecommerce sites it is difficult to find a product catalogue.

alex_cross

11:33 pm on Aug 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The front page should contain a "Shop with Confidence" section. Your CCR will soar if it is written well.

I agree with the shopping cart.

Purple Martin

1:35 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A Good Thing:

The feature I find myself wishing for most often is the ability to search by keyword(s) and price range. Often it's possible to search by one or the other, but rarely both.

A Bad Thing:

One thing that really bugs me is the inability to enter an overseas billing address. I use online shopping to buy presents for friends & family who are in a different country, so that I can save on postage. Imagine my frustration when I've spent ages finding a good gift site based in their country, choosing the right gift, going through the shopping cart section (often 5 pages longer than it needs to be), entering the delivery address, composing a greeting message, choosing the wrapping, and entering my credit card details, only to find that the site won't allow me to enter my address because I'm "in the wrong country" - aaaaaarghhh! I'm paying by credit card for goodness sake, it shouldn't matter where I am. Grr.

Marcia

1:40 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Alex, for the "shop with confidence" you mean a paragraph making that point right on the front page will do better for converting to sales than on an "about us" or "policies" page?

>find a product catalogue.

A lot of sites have links from the main page to main category sections of the site as navigation that's common throughout the site. In the case where the graphical interface is a little large in size that can slow loading time throughout the site. I've seen where it was carried right into the shopping cart and at times people emailed the owner saying they couldn't shop the cart was so slow to load.

Having a good catalog page could probably eliminate that. What would you say is a good setup for a catalog page - something like a site map?

Vanessa

2:04 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Like a site map is good - but also to include descriptive information. For example: If i am buying perfume, I don't want to have to visit the "health and beauty", "cosmetics", "gifts" and "luxury items" sections just to work out where it is. Good sort descriptions in your index can solve this. Also helps having an a-z as well and by type.

alex_cross

2:16 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm shooting for less than three clicks to get what you want. If you actually know what you want then you can find it in one.

rewboss

5:40 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No clever innovations, please. An online shop should be as much like a real life shop as possible, and there are certain conventions that are well established on online shopping sites. Don't break them.

Send my credit card and billing and shipping addresses through a secure protocol, and tell me that's what you're doing.

Give me a telephone number in case things go horribly wrong. Sometimes I need to talk to a real human being, especially when it involves my credit card number.

alex_cross

5:42 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Have six phone numbers and eight emails. I keep having people say "Take a picture of your staff and put it on your site". How does that sound?

What makes you stay on a site to shop??

BlobFisk

9:50 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A nice clean interface with good, sensible navigation!

I'll second Purple_Martins sentiments about overseas shipping and addresses. One thing in particular, we don't have zip codes or post codes here - yet on many shopping sites they insist you put it in, even though you're about to tell them that you're from Ireland. In the end I put in nozip or 00 or something like that just to force the page to submit. It's not a huge problem for me, but I'm thinking about novice users panicing and leaving without buying anything becuase they were not allowed to skip a section that they have no information for (ie Zip Code/Post Code).

Speed is another thing, if the site is too slow I'll go somewhere else. I'm an impulse buyer - if I see something I like, I want it right now, yesterday... last week! If a site makes me wait for ages while it goes in and out of it's SSL, I'll go elsewhere online.

alex_cross

10:56 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Zip Codes. Got it. I'll put it on the shipping page.

papabaer

1:39 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Clarity. Eliminate all vestiges of guesswork. Create elements designed to provide visual cues and aid your visitors. This is where design comes into play.

Obviously, a "shopping cart" is an easily recognized visual aid. But what about informational boxes? If throughout the site the same colors, fonts and presentation are used to offer information aids and prompts, then the usability of the site is increased.

This is also a good argument for maintaining a limited color scheme: too many colors and text variations will lessen the impact of info/prompt text boxes and negate their effectiveness.

Less is more. Keep your navigation simple and consistant, resist gratuitous "enhancements" such as "cool" images and gui widgets.

Limit your fonts. You do NOT need endless variations. Be very specific in the application of font-size and color and you will enhance the usability of the site.

Use lists judiciously. Save these powerful elements for showcasing and highlighting. Make so that when a list is presented your user knows it is important.

K.I.S.S. is good!

shelleycat

11:58 am on Aug 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One thing I don't like is places which ask me for credit card and address details before they give me shipping information and before I'm ready to make a purchase. I shouldn't have to give my credit card number just to put things in the shopping cart, but it happens. In particular, as international shipping can be expensive this is often a deciding factor in my purchase. So I'm never ready to buy until I know the full shipping cost. I tend to give false information to these types of sites and then start over when (and if) I'm ready to buy.

What I do like is places that let me either save the cart for later or save a 'wishlist' type cart. I often find a bunch of things I like then go away and think about it before I make a purchase (and check the exchange rate and try to find my credit card and..). If I can easily collect things I like but don't want to buy right now, without any pressure to make the purchase, I'm more likely to come back and buy them later. So it works for the seller also. A lot of sites do this and I've made extra purchases in the past because of it.

alex_cross

12:40 pm on Aug 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm looking for a wish-list and a review-this-product-script but have not found one yet.

txbakers

12:46 pm on Aug 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think I was referred to this site from WebmasterWorld, but if not, here it is again:

I spend a great deal of time here, taking the links to look at other minimalist designs. Clean is better. Though I don't see how many of then qualify as minimalist.

www.textbased.com/~minimalist/

alex_cross

1:39 pm on Aug 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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txbakers,

Anything for an Ecommerce site that requires a lot of links?

txbakers

4:41 pm on Aug 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You could also look at www.coolhomepages.com which is a great source for ideas.

For me, clean is better.