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I think they can look nice, agreed, but I generally dislike using them. I've spent a lot of time programming my brain to recognize the standard scrollbar. With only so many brain cells left after a mispent youth, I just find these colored scrollbars make surfing more difficult for me.
For me, it's another one of those cases where it looks cool, but ultimately I spend less time and visit fewer pages at sites with non-standard scrollbars.
Interface standardization from one app to the other was one of the *good* things from the GUI revolution. In most areas of software, the trend has been towards increasing standardization - compare old versions of WordPerfect to Word of the same era, and now compare current versions.
Why reverse this trend? Are purple scrollbars really better?
'standard' blue bar
BTW, what OS has a blue scroll bar as standard? I have to admit I haven't even seen Windows XP (or Me or 98 for the most part either). In Win95/Win2K/Mac/KDE I believe the default scrollbars are usually grey, are they not?
Interesting what you say about non standard scroll bars, in fact i was just thinking the same researching this. i dont generally like them, but there are times when they are nessesary. That said, i am only just changing the look of the scroll bar...its not totally different, just a slight hue change so that it clashes a little less harshly. The worst crime you can commit in terms of design is having a scroll bar that blends in with the backround totally, because, as you say, it goes against what peoples brains are subconscously looking for to scroll with...
Thanks very much for the point however, its an interesting thing to remember...
worst crime you can commit in terms of design is having a scroll bar that blends in with the backround totally
Absolutely. I am increasingly coming across sites where it's only after a fair bit of looking that I realize there *is* a scrollbar and additional content. For a regular computer nerd, scrolling should be subconscious, not a challenge.
Wow! If blue/purple is standard for scrollbars on some OS, I'm going to start coding them back to gray!
I just removed code that collored the scroll bars so that I could assure a standardized browser presentation. Your page will not validate using the IE scrollbar hack, so you cannot use a W3C Doctype (with URI) which is necessary to keep IE from rendering your page in quirks mode.
As far as I know, changing the look of the scrollbars works only on MSIE 5.5 and 6.0 in quirks mode.
Just a case of this being one of the few times its a nice feature...
primitive I know, but it makes me feel uncomfortable and that isn't a good thing for a site to do
....the one im talking about is only for a central frame...
Well that might be different. I still find a lot of sites where the scrollbars are hard to find (can anyone here say Flash?), but I'm not against scrollbars internal to a page being dressed up a bit. It's when they start changing the scrollbars on the sides that I get confused.